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Forcing the Issue [message #1089] Mon, 18 August 2003 17:02 Go to next message
Eric  is currently offline Eric
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It's probably not good plotting to think along these lines, but Tuck's such a reactive (as opposed to assertive) character that I can't help wondering if he'll let the next big decision get away from him.

Certainly if things get to the point of seriously endangering Tuck's health (and is that what the polyp in #99 is leading up to?) I think there are circumstances under which the Pack would confront Tuck's parents with Valerie's existence over Tuck's objections. (Actually, they have plenty of photographic evidence that they could simply put in the postal mail to one of the parents' business addresses, though I can't really see them taking that circuitous -- OK, that cowardly -- an approach.) Ordinarily I'd expect them to confer with Mike and get him to agree or at least not stand in their way, but if Kathy were convinced there was physical jeopardy, I think the Pack might go that route even without Mike's approval.

But what really came to mind was Debbie, who has the same photographic evidence, a (presumed) continued concern about Tuck that he refuses to acknowledge, a vested interest in Valerie keeping the babysitting job (not enough of a reason to do anything, but something with which she could justify her behavior to herself without admitting her feelings for Tuck/Val), and a determination to control any situation she's involved in. (And that'd get her back in the story line, almost literally, with a vengeance.)

Any thoughts?

Eric
Re: Forcing the Issue [message #1091] Mon, 18 August 2003 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erin Halfelven  is currently offline Erin Halfelven
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It's certainly a possibility. Maybe the postcard in this episode was a foreshadowing; Ellen sometimes uses subtlety like a sledgehammer--meaning you're surprised but you know you shouldn't have been. Smile

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Re: Forcing the Issue [message #1093] Mon, 18 August 2003 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also there was the hint that Sarah and Val may start interacting more like Mother and Daughter versus mom and son.

I suggest this based on the hugs and the talk about babys and housekeeping.

I keep expecting Sarah to reallize that Tuck/Val is her daughter.

Carla
Re: Forcing the Issue [message #1099] Thu, 21 August 2003 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'm not sure about sarah seeing tuck as more of a daughtor than a son. she's REALLY into the whole equality of the sexes thing. sarah thinks the babysitting and getting along with women and all the "girly" things he does is a result of all the feminist things she shoved into thier heads growing up. that in mind, i don't think she could think tuck could be a girl. you know, there are lots of feminists that actualy HATE TS. TS being unhappy with being one gender, proves that there is a differance in the sexes, that woman can't do everything a man can do and visaversa.

then there's his sister, susan. she is totaly convinced that thier parents will flip out if they found out about val. i don't think the being gay thing would be as big of a deal, in fact i REALLY think they already strongly suspect that.

so i think they don't sarah's going to really think of tuck as a girl any time soon. probably just as a tired, sensetive, and possibly gay son.

as far as somone interveining on tuck's behaf. i don't know who it will be. mike is the obvious chioce. but he'd need proding. maybe kim might help convince mike something needs to be done. .... anything i can come up with is too complicated. and when things are too complicated, they probably won't happen, so, more needs to happen. time will pass and the possible paths will narrow. we'll see where this leads.
Re: Forcing the Issue [message #1104] Fri, 22 August 2003 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doragoon wrote on Thu, 21 August 2003 04:31

i'm not sure about sarah seeing tuck as more of a daughtor than a son. she's REALLY into the whole equality of the sexes thing. sarah thinks the babysitting and getting along with women and all the "girly" things he does is a result of all the feminist things she shoved into thier heads growing up. that in mind, i don't think she could think tuck could be a girl.
you do not see the "moments" where others outside the home interact with Valarie and she in turn reacts as any female would without even giving it a thought?
you know, there are lots of feminists that actualy HATE TS.
I think that is highly exaggerated. . there are more for us than against us anymore I think to the increased awareness by television programs and the media
TS being unhappy with being one gender, proves that there is a differance in the sexes, that woman can't do everything a man can do and visaversa.

then there's his sister, susan. she is totaly convinced that thier parents will flip out if they found out about val. i don't think the being gay thing would be as big of a deal, in fact i REALLY think they already strongly suspect that.
I strongly suspect that Susan is not only getting used to but liking the idea that Valarie is her little sister after all. All it would take from Susan to out Valarie to her mom is for her to see her do something that she knew was not in her best interest and the truth would be told.

so i think they don't sarah's going to really think of tuck as a girl any time soon. probably just as a tired, sensetive, and possibly gay son.

Parents for the most part are the last to come to terms with reality and see their child for who they really are but with the help of Valarie's friends as well as siblings it is possible.

as far as somone interveining on tuck's behaf. i don't know who it will be. mike is the obvious chioce. but he'd need proding. maybe kim might help convince mike something needs to be done. .... anything i can come up with is too complicated. and when things are too complicated, they probably won't happen, so, more needs to happen. time will pass and the possible paths will narrow. we'll see where this leads.

I see the pack along with Susan being more apt to forcing the issue as to what will transpire. They as a group will help her confront reality and the truth as opposed as to the fantasy. Yes Valarie would be so very scared and hurt at first but they would be there to help her see the light and give her the hugs and dry her tears afterward. Something I cannot see any of the boyz being able to do. Valarie would talk to the boyz and try to get them to flee with her but I see them maybe even turning Valarie over to the pack as they cannot relate to her on a female level.And the pack once they confront and comfort Valarie turning her over to her mother and sister for some needed sharing and bonding finally.


Doubt is a thief that often makes us fear to tread where we might have won --Shakespeare" --

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Re: Forcing the Issue [message #1247] Fri, 03 October 2003 18:19 Go to previous message
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Carla, now that Sarah knows about Val, do you think that she will be thinking of her son in terms of being her daughter?

It will be interesting to see how Val's job as a babysitter and his cooking are viewed now by Sarah and Bill. In one way I can see them not wanting to give up the resident Sunday cook. Do things stay the same or are big changes in store?
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