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Kelly and ... [message #324] Mon, 21 October 2002 17:09 Go to next message
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I keep wondering what is going to happen with Kelly. I see five major possiblities. The first is that Kelly is a red herring and nothing is going to happen. The second is that one of the pack will cme to a realization about herself and Kelly becomes involved. A third is that Kelly gets a crush on Val and the emotional drama ensues. The fourth is that Kelly and Debbie some how end up together, this would be evil for Tuck having to deal with Debbie being around more and dating someone Tuck knows. But none of these options were evil enough for our beloved author. The one I keep expecting to happen is number five: Kelly and Lisa. This will cause drama with Debbie probably being jealous, this will also bring Lisa back into the picture more (maybe Lisa brought to a gaming session as the 'unknown girlfriend'). And of course I can see more complications like being Tuck between a rock and a hard place wanting to help Debbie through the rough time but also wanting to help Kelly, and of course hoping Travis does not get jealous of the time Tuck spends helping Debbie and the dangers (real or imagined) that brings with it.

Those are just my thoughts. Has anyone else been thinking about this? Maybe I just have too Machievellian of a view of Ellen (in the best of ways).
Re: Kelly and ... [message #326] Mon, 21 October 2002 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even though it's rather expected. i still think kelly has some sort of crush on Tuck or Val. that might also be a reason why it was so important for her to know what tuck was. she was atracted to tuck but if tuck is a guy, then it kinda turns kelly's world upsidedown.

i still think that if there are going ot be any big surprizes then it's gong to be at the party in a couple weeks, though i honastly hadn't considered the possibility that kelly might be the surprize. but kelly is a nice girl, and so inocent. i feel bad for her and i just wish she could find SOMEONE. but the only people who would be safe to date are jill, kim, and val. and sadly enough all those are dating someone. although i could see kelly inviting someone to the party as "just a freind" but she secretly has a crush on them but it somehow slips out durring the party. but that would be a horrible thing, so we don't want that to happen.

Some one else take a shot at this. i could go on for hours and never get anywhere.
Re: Kelly and ... [message #328] Mon, 21 October 2002 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"only people who would be safe to date are jill, kim, and val. and sadly enough all those are dating someone"

Jill is dating someone? How did I miss that?
That'll shoot down my Jill and Tuck/Val theory. Shocked
Re: Kelly and ... [message #335] Mon, 21 October 2002 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jill is dating someone?

Jill has been dating some guy named Russ for like forever. she complains how she never really gets to see him very much. it isn't too tight of a relationship. but they date when they each have time.
Re: Kelly and ... [message #353] Thu, 24 October 2002 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think that Kelly and Tuck are together as little sister/big brother for a reason. I am not sure of what may happen. But I would suggest that there is another possibility (which has been sort of suggested) that Kelly will get involved with some one out side of the circle of the Pack. This could mean involving Tuck for guidance or something.
Just my rambling thoughts.


Maynard
Re: Kelly and ... [message #359] Thu, 24 October 2002 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maynard wrote on Thu, 24 October 2002 16:39


I think that Kelly and Tuck are together as little sister/big brother for a reason. I am not sure of what may happen. But I would suggest that there is another possibility (which has been sort of suggested) that Kelly will get involved with some one out side of the circle of the Pack. This could mean involving Tuck for guidance or something.
Just my rambling thoughts.


I think their relationship is more little sister/big sister even though Kelly has been told Tuck still acts and reacts like a sister rather than a brother so Kelly trusts Tuck and tells her things she would never tell a boy. And the guidance thing is a good probability. Maybe Kelly has some boy problems for the first time and seeks Tucks advice on how she handles things. We will have to wait with baited breaths.


Doubt is a thief that often makes us fear to tread where we might have won --Shakespeare" --

-Vicki
Re: Kelly and ... [message #423] Mon, 28 October 2002 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vicki wrote on Thu, 24 October 2002 17:42

Maynard wrote on Thu, 24 October 2002 16:39


I think that Kelly and Tuck are together as little sister/big brother for a reason. I am not sure of what may happen. But I would suggest that there is another possibility (which has been sort of suggested) that Kelly will get involved with some one out side of the circle of the Pack. This could mean involving Tuck for guidance or something.
Just my rambling thoughts.


I think their relationship is more little sister/big sister even though Kelly has been told Tuck still acts and reacts like a sister rather than a brother so Kelly trusts Tuck and tells her things she would never tell a boy. And the guidance thing is a good probability. Maybe Kelly has some boy problems for the first time and seeks Tucks advice on how she handles things. We will have to wait with baited breaths.


I've been watching with a kind of morbid fascination
(the kind one has watching a train wreck) for awhile
now waiting to see if Kelly is going to be another 'Boys
Don't Cry' type situation. If anyone remembers that
story doesn't exactly end happily...if Kelly dates
someone, I'll be really curious to know which gender
that person will be. I'll also be wondering if Ellen
plans to rewrite history by giving Teena Brandon a
second chance through Kelly or whether or not she'll
decide to follow what has happened in RL influence
the story by using it to feed emotional impact on the
characters.


Re: Kelly and ... [message #431] Mon, 28 October 2002 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

BethR wrote:
If Kelly is a lesbian and goes dating on that context, then the "shock of discovery" wouldn't be an issue. Will Kelly eventually turn out to be an F2M?


We do know some things about Kelly like :


  1. she appears femine and relates as such
  2. she considers Tuck/Val more like a sister than a brother
  3. she admits to Val a crush and short fling with another girl
  4. she is definately a geek-ette

    Did I leave anything out ?


I have friends that are both gay and lesbian and also have some TS friends that are from runway models to totally unpassable. Kelly is pretty much the unknown factor at the moment. You never know perhaps when Valarie finds out she is intersexed maybe Kelly will admit that she is too and help Valarie cope ? It is totally up th the great Goddess Ellen as to how things will transpire.


Doubt is a thief that often makes us fear to tread where we might have won --Shakespeare" --

-Vicki
Re: Kelly and ... [message #450] Tue, 29 October 2002 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelly is definitly a woman and relates as such, but her visual appearances have to be fairly butch because everyone in Tuck's group thought she was a 'he'. Someone else might make the same mistake and then there will be a moment of surprise. I also see her most likely getting a date if someone makes the mistake, though if that girl tries to spread the fact of Kelly being a lesbain I am sure Da Boyz and the Pack can do many interesting things as revenge.
Re: Kelly and ... [message #456] Tue, 29 October 2002 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sandradee wrote on Tue, 29 October 2002 06:58

Kelly is definitly a woman and relates as such, but her visual appearances have to be fairly butch because everyone in Tuck's group thought she was a 'he'. Someone else might make the same mistake and then there will be a moment of surprise. I also see her most likely getting a date if someone makes the mistake, though if that girl tries to spread the fact of Kelly being a lesbain I am sure Da Boyz and the Pack can do many interesting things as revenge.


A good possibility. . . .


Doubt is a thief that often makes us fear to tread where we might have won --Shakespeare" --

-Vicki
Re: Kelly and ... [message #457] Tue, 29 October 2002 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how about Tanya?

kelly could date her couldn't she?

but i'm sure julia knows more lesbians than just her.
i would recomend someone from rachel's roommate dave's freinds. but they are all too old for her.
Re: Kelly and ... [message #458] Tue, 29 October 2002 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sandradee wrote on Tue, 29 October 2002 06:58

Kelly is definitly a woman and relates as such, but her visual appearances have to be fairly butch because everyone in Tuck's group thought she was a 'he'. Someone else might make the same mistake and then there will be a moment of surprise. I also see her most likely getting a date if someone makes the mistake, though if that girl tries to spread the fact of Kelly being a lesbain I am sure Da Boyz and the Pack can do many interesting things as revenge.


Yes with her "butch" appearance that is bound to cause her some problems with some other girls as well as some guys but is the appearance due to clothing and hairstyle or physical attributes ? or some of both ? But I am not totally sure that she is a lesban but at this time in her life merely expermenting . . . (forgive my spelling)


Doubt is a thief that often makes us fear to tread where we might have won --Shakespeare" --

-Vicki
Re: Kelly and George [message #472] Thu, 31 October 2002 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gilbert wrote on Wed, 30 October 2002 08:02

I can not recall if Geogre is awary of Kelly's orientation.


He's not, unless he figured it out himself. The only people who know, I assume, are Tuck, Kim, Jill, and Mike. Tuck made a point of saying that it was Kelly's secret to tell.
Re: Kelly and ... [message #482] Sun, 03 November 2002 08:28 Go to previous message
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sandradee wrote on Tue, 29 October 2002 06:58

Kelly is definitly a woman and relates as such, but her visual appearances have to be fairly butch because everyone in Tuck's group thought she was a 'he'. Someone else might make the same mistake....



This was the senario I meant when I mentioned my
fears for her character's future..also recall that
Tuck had a nightmare on the day that Kelly told
her seceret\discovered the truth about Tuck.

Hmmm... just a thought, but has anyone considered
the possibility that Tuck could be psychic and the
dreams are sendings from the future? It'd probably
make for a great side story, with perhaps a bit of
explaination for the Tuck\Mike bond....


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