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Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2077] Thu, 05 August 2004 06:50 Go to next message
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So any Unix/Linux geeks in here? Figured that with a title like geek city in combination with computers they're had to be a few! Or we could do the truly computer geek thing and post out compeer specs but I'll not be the first to do that.

[Updated on: Thu, 05 August 2004 06:51]

Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2082] Fri, 06 August 2004 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I stumble around in unix/linux but I can't say I'm truly geeky. Smile

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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2084] Fri, 06 August 2004 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well the Zen of command line is not for everyone (although the gui is becoming much more user friendly). Very Happy Most people are very intimidated by unix/linux so the fact that you are willing to stumble around in it is cool. Don't be afraid to ask questions if you need help (Don't know how useful I can be but I'll try and help if I can).

unix/linux geek and proud of it! Smile
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2110] Thu, 19 August 2004 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm using Linux and getting better at it, but my linux-sensei kicks ass.

As for posting computer specs, don't. Just don't. I'm running on stuff
so primitive that most people consider it garbage - in fact, that's how
I get it all.


Ellen
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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2111] Thu, 19 August 2004 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A good linux-sensei is a definit must! I still go back to my sensei every now and again and I have been doing this for quite some time. Don't worry I have no plans to talk about system computer specs! Unless you want to talk about old outdated functional systems that you still own (and still use on a regular basis). Then feal free! I have some wondeful little clunkers still in use (They are kinda like little children to me which is sad...) and am very familure with the upgrade through hand me down route as well!
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2113] Thu, 19 August 2004 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Thu, 19 August 2004 12:51

I'm using Linux and getting better at it, but my linux-sensei kicks ass.

As for posting computer specs, don't. Just don't. I'm running on stuff so primitive that most people consider it garbage - in fact, that's how I get it all.


Think of it as an aid to concentration. :-}

/me dinks with this desktop manager's change-desktop effects. Oooh. <swish> Prettyyyyy.

hmm. Maybe I should put linux back on this thing, if only KDE hadn't gotten so pretty itself...

(In all seriousness, it sometimes seems that the more the capabilities the more the distractions. always-on internet can be a curse too. It's too easy to just switch over and chat on IRC or look at this forum instead of concentrating on what I should be doing. If the net connection goes down lots of stuff gets done!)

Oh, this reminds me. I feel robbed. My mac doesn't have a bedoop. Where'd Tucker get his bedoop? Smile


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2125] Sun, 22 August 2004 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gui is good! having lots of terminals visible at the same time is a Good Thing(tm)


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2126] Sun, 22 August 2004 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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warui neko wrote on Thu, 05 August 2004 03:50

So any Unix/Linux geeks in here? Figured that with a title like geek city in combination with computers they're had to be a few! Or we could do the truly computer geek thing and post out compeer specs but I'll not be the first to do that.


Absolutely. I'm more of a Unix purist though. Linux isn't Unix, but it's a Unix like OS. I first worked with it back in the 0.99 kernel days, but generally don't touch it now.

However, I've been working with Unix commercially for 16 years. I first touched it in school, however, on a Version 7 box and later with a 3b2. I also played around with a PC running System V.

Now a days, however, I'm mostly a SPARC/Solaris person. I've been administering/coding for it for 11 or so years now. Actually, back then it was SunOS. I've done kernel development, systems administration, application development and kernel panic analysis. In fact, I did kernel panic analysis for Sun.

As for companies I've worked for, I've worked for several ISPs, Silicon Graphics, Sun Microsystems, Microsoft (bleh), my own consulting company, other consulting companies, GlobalVillage (the mac modem people), etc. etc.

As for positions, I've been a partner in a consulting company and was a the MIS director for another.

As for size of boxes, I've administered machines as small as small PCs acting as mail or web servers to boxen that were 7 digits in cost.

Mel


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2146] Mon, 30 August 2004 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Thu, 19 August 2004 04:51


As for posting computer specs, don't. Just don't. I'm running on stuff so primitive that most people consider it garbage - in fact, that's how I get it all.


Ellen
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Sounds familiar.

I've got *lots* of old gear (ranging from TRS-80s and the Franklin Apple ][ *clones* on up thru more modern gear.

I need to thin out the storage locker some, so if you need parts for anything pre-pentium, let drop me a line and if I've got it, I can ship it someplace you can pick it up.

Pentium class stuff I don't have as much to spare, as I'm trying to keep several poor friends capable of email & web access.

BTW, my setup is almost as bad as Tuck's. I've got things like P75 system running Netware and a 486 handling Fidonet and uucp mail, on up thru a 1 Ghz Pentium laptop.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2160] Wed, 01 September 2004 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd be more than willing to take your old stuff, but the SO has threatened me with a garage sale if I bring any more Old Computer Stuff into the house. I think the only reason I've managed to keep the Apple ]['s so long is that she doesn't remember where I hid them....

If anyone has Apple OS 7.5.3 or so AND IN MACHINE READABLE CONDITON though, post a notice here. I have some oooolllldddd Macs that I'd like to wire together, for gaming purposes, and I'm not sure I can find any OS that'll run on the damned things.

And as for 'in machine readable condition' ... magnetic media fail eventually, like over the course of a decade or two. Just 'cause you have the original floppies doesn't mean that the magnetic substrate hasn't decayed over time.


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2164] Wed, 01 September 2004 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 07:34

I'd be more than willing to take your old stuff, but the SO has threatened me with a garage sale if I bring any more Old Computer Stuff into the house. I think the only reason I've managed to keep the Apple ]['s so long is that she doesn't remember where I hid them....



If you've got OS floppies for them, I want copies. I have the franklins, but no boot disks!

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If anyone has Apple OS 7.5.3 or so AND IN MACHINE READABLE CONDITON though, post a notice here. I have some oooolllldddd Macs that I'd like to wire together, for gaming purposes, and I'm not sure I can find any OS that'll run on the damned things.

And as for 'in machine readable condition' ... magnetic media fail eventually, like over the course of a decade or two. Just 'cause you have the original floppies doesn't mean that the magnetic substrate hasn't decayed over time.


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I'm virtually *certain* have the CD around here somewhere. But a quick search has failed to locate any of my Mac disks. They may have been included in the "haul everything not in use to storage" purge last october.

Remind me if you don't get something from elsewhere. If I find them before you get a copy elsewhere, I'll burn a CD.

I know about media failing. I have a *lot* of floppies waiting for me to get a 5.25" drive set up again. Along with the CopyIIPC deluxe option board. Smile

There there's the stuff on 8" floppies. Thank god you can wire a 1.2 meg drive to look like an 8".
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2170] Wed, 01 September 2004 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen, I'll check with a couple of friends who work over in Apple's OS dev group. They may be able to get their hands on a copy and get it to me. I'll email you if I can get it.

Mel


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2171] Wed, 01 September 2004 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[Ellen wrote:]
And as for 'in machine readable condition' ... magnetic media fail eventually, like over the course of a decade or two. Just 'cause you have the original floppies doesn't mean that the magnetic substrate hasn't decayed over time.


Tsk. You should have stuck with a more permanent storage medium, like *I* did. Paper tape and punched cards *never* fade away!

Or just use core memory - my PDP11/15 still boots up with the program I loaded into it over a decade ago.

'Course, applying Service Pack 2 to WinXP takes a bit longer...

Smile

I'm pretty sure I have 7.5.3 somewhere around here, but I'd have to repair the power supply in one of the 128k, 512k, SE or Plus that I have lined up on a shelf in the basement, to test the disks. They have *all* been cannibalized long ago to keep friends' Macs running.

T.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2175] Thu, 02 September 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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T. wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 18:15
[Ellen wrote:]
And as for 'in machine readable condition' ... magnetic media fail eventually, like over the course of a decade or two. Just 'cause you have the original floppies doesn't mean that the magnetic substrate hasn't decayed over time.
[/quote]

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Tsk. You should have stuck with a more permanent storage medium, like *I* did. Paper tape and punched cards *never* fade away!
[/quote]

Got punch cards. Got paper tape. Including some 5-bit (Baudot code!) tape.

[quote]
Or just use core memory - my PDP11/15 still boots up with the program I loaded into it over a decade ago.
[/quote]

I have a 256 byte core plane but it'[s more a novelty than anything else I also still have two disk packs for the IBM 2311 drive (the size of a washing machine) that I used to own (I was going to try interfacing it to my TRS-80, ok?)

It's fun digging out this stuff to show folks who think they know a lot about computers.

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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2178] Thu, 02 September 2004 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I have a copy of apple dos around somewhere if some one relly needs it I'll see about geting a copy to ya.

I got rid of the old apple ][+ (heavily modified) about 5~6 years ago when I moved from my nice spacious apartment to a smaller house with some friends. I do miss that old mahine!

I also went ahead and tossed out the dual 12 floppy drive that I was planning on turning into a end table (Dang thing was HUGE!) with that move as well. Hmm come to think about it I got rid of quite a bit of old PC stuff with that move.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2179] Thu, 02 September 2004 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brooke wrote on Thu, 02 September 2004 02:16

I have a 256 byte core plane but it's more a novelty than anything else I also still have two disk packs for the IBM 2311 drive (the size of a washing machine) that I used to own (I was going to try interfacing it to my TRS-80, ok?)


Too bad you don't still have the 2311 - I have a set of unused, spare heads for it! And, I think I must still have the hydraulic pump; it's the kind of thing I'd NEVER throw out!

I actually planned to interface the 2311 with a home-built Z80 computer, but after I managed to obtain the manuals and realized the interface was ECL, I dropped that plan as being too expensive for my very limited budget at the time. But the 5MB (formatted!) capacity seemed like it would be a black hole that I could never fill up. And it was a real trip just to watch it go through the platter-cleaning and head-loading cycle at spinup. Ah, those innocent days!

At that time, I also had, working and used with the Z80, a Univac verifying punch, Univac line printer, RCA terminal that had a MR recirculating delay line as a screen buffer and drew the on-screen characters from an etched metal template, a Univac terminal with a core memory screen buffer. It still shows the last session whenever I turn it on. That terminal draws the characters using vectors. Text looks like an architect's drawing notation!

I've also owned and since traded Apple ]['s, Franklins, an original Altair, an IMSAI, a bunch of TurboDOS-specific cards...

I still have most of my Macs and accessories, going back to a 128k purchased in 1984. I jumped on the platform and was one of the first registered developers in Canada. I think I still have the first issue of MacTutor magazine somewhere. AND the original Dogcow Tech note! Woo hoo!

:-)

T.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2180] Thu, 02 September 2004 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My collection of weird and arcane stuff starts (in order of age of gear) with a weird gizmo called a Diskwriter. 8080 based system from 1977 or so. 8k ram, 8k rom, two serial ports two floppy drives. It's a sort of line editor for a terminal. The idea was that you'd do data entry on it, then connect to your time sharing service and dump the several hundred lines of data. It stored one line per sector on the floppy. 128 byte sectors. Smile

Then I've got various TRS-80 stuff, Model 4 systems, a Model II a model 16 (or 6000, I frget which) Color computers, Tandy 2000, actual honest to god IBM PCs (with cassette ports!) various PC clones, Model 100 & 200 notebooks, several Model 600 noteebooks, somer Mac Plus systems Mac SEs, Mac Se 20 and a couple of powerbpokks and power PCs. Oh yeah and a *really* weird unix workstation built by Tektronix. Uses an RCA 10032 or 32016 (don't remember which)

Probably several *tons* of computers.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2181] Thu, 02 September 2004 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 01 September 2004 16:34

I'd be more than willing to take your old stuff, but the SO has threatened me with a garage sale if I bring any more Old Computer Stuff into the house. I think the only reason I've managed to keep the Apple ]['s so long is that she doesn't remember where I hid them....

If anyone has Apple OS 7.5.3 or so AND IN MACHINE READABLE CONDITON though, post a notice here. I have some oooolllldddd Macs that I'd like to wire together, for gaming purposes, and I'm not sure I can find any OS that'll run on the damned things.

And as for 'in machine readable condition' ... magnetic media fail eventually, like over the course of a decade or two. Just 'cause you have the original floppies doesn't mean that the magnetic substrate hasn't decayed over time.


Ellen
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Well, I don't have it myself but I do know System 7.5.3 is available for download on Apple's website (does that count as "machine readable" Smile )
On http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html down under "System Software Downloads" you can get it as 19 parts of a self-mounting Disk Copy image.
Hope this helps.


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2561] Tue, 12 October 2004 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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linux geeks represent!

got my start as a student admin in highschool... playing around with alternative OSes and old hardware since then. Not currently running any linux boxen but that's just because I had to switch my server over so other people could use it more effectively... and because I didn't have the time to put into adding the cool new features that I wanted to.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2565] Tue, 12 October 2004 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, this house is moving towards Linux because I don't have time to put up with Windoze shenanigans, nor do I wish to present my electronics to the 733t h4x0r d00dz like my finances are already present to corporate banking (naked, chained down, ass in the air, "FUCK HERE" and directional arrows painted in big itchy red paint).
The generalized network-the-house project is moving forwards, slowly; I did however find a how-to on putting four (all working) floppy drives on an IBM compatible.
*grins* Tuck is, as he often is, an inspiration... "If that little dork can do it, _I_ can do it!"


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Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2566] Tue, 12 October 2004 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Tue, 12 October 2004 08:40

I did however find a how-to on putting four (all working) floppy drives on an IBM compatible.
*grins* Tuck is, as he often is, an inspiration... "If that little dork can do it, _I_ can do it!"

Part of me wants to ask, "Why on earth would you want four floppy drives on the the same computer, espically if you're working on networking the house?"
Another part of me knows the answer, though. "Because I had four floppy drives sitting around, and because I can!"
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #2567] Tue, 12 October 2004 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 12 October 2004 16:48

"Because I had four floppy drives sitting around"

More like fifteen. I actually don't know. However, the P133 that Tuck is written on (for the last couple of years) is still about the #3 fastest machine in the house... which should tell you what most of those floppy drives are going to be.
I also have something of a use for many floppy drives, especially on a multitasking OS machine; I have LOTS of software that I'd like to get off floppies and onto CD-Rs. Some of it actually expensive, like Lotus 1-2-3 and suchlike, from the Silver Age.


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Hm.

A lot of people talking about linux, and a couple about unix...

I guess Ill have to be the token BSD user here Wink

FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE, WinXP pro, Win2003 Server standard, and DOS 6.22 are my operating systems of choice.

my knowledge of each os in turn (as I see it, could be wrong)
BSD: 4/10
WinXP pro: 9/10
Win2k3: 6/10
DOS: 9.5/10

I dont have a preference of any over the other, they are all best suited to certain tasks as I see it.

I never thought I would have "the penguin" in my house, but I recently got a WRT54GS v2.0 and installed DD-WRT on it (linux os for a now famous linksys router).

I have a computer hardware obsession, I rent a small bedroom out of a house in NC, USA, and its filled with computers and comp parts. Recently I got "bit by the laptop bug" and now have a plethora of them, most have bad problems such as being broken in half almolst x.x

Ive learned to barter for computer parts im after on craigslist.org and thus ive gotten quite a set of somewhat older comps. Im not trying to brag, sorry if any of this sounds like it, just letting people know where I stand. I am disabled on disability, too many problems that add up to me being unable to work x.x I hate it, boring as hell sitting alone in this room day in day out.

I dunno why I ended up posting so much here, but hell its my first post and I feel akin to people here yet we've never met (Ellen Hayes, your stories are that damn good!)

ill stop blabbering now.
Re: Any unix/linux geeks in here? [message #5095] Thu, 15 March 2007 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've used FreeBSD before, I had it on another machine and I quite liked it. I also used a virtual machine to run it so I could do some uni coursework instead of SSHing into a remote server. Now I just stick to XP, I can't take all my computers around with me (three desktops and a laptop) and I'd rather have my more powerful XP machine with me. I'll be getting a Vista laptop when I can afford it.
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I suppose I qualify as unix/linux geek, having done Unix/Linux kernel/system coding since the 80s... As for hardware specs: my Acorn Atom has been extended to the full 12KB RAM. I haven't figured out yet how to connect my Teletype to it, though. Smile
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Whot, no serial port? Shouldn't be THAT hard... especially if you can work in assembly language.


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Assembly language is fun. Very Happy
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 19:28

Whot, no serial port? Shouldn't be THAT hard... especially if you can work in assembly language.


Most TTY units tend to be 20mA current loop rather than RS-232.

If you've got an original IBM Async card and a system with XT or AT slots, that's not a problem, you just flip the shunts and make a cable.

If not, you get to play hardware hacker.
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