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Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5182] Thu, 31 May 2007 20:35 Go to next message
Aylwin  is currently offline Aylwin
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I thought it might be fun to start a thread about anime/manga with TS/TG themes. I'll start off with a few...

Anime: Ranma 1/2 -- probably doesn't even need saying Smile

Anime/Manga: Tenshi na Konamaiki / Cheeky Angel. I liked this one a lot because, like Tuck, it definitely has gender issues as a central theme but it also has a lot of great character development and plot. It's looooooong though...

Manga: Pretty Face. Main character (a guy) burns up in a bus wreck and is believed dead by all his friends. Crazy plastic surgeon doctor finds a picture of his girlfriend in his wallet and decides that's what this poor kid used to look like. Wackiness ensues! Sadly the author of this one got burned out after 6 volumes and it ends rather abruptly (but still well). The whole thing's one long "oohhh nooooo!" moment.

Anime/Manga: Naruto.. not a central theme, but there's definitely some gender bending going on with a few of the characters.

Anime: I My Me! Strawberry Eggs. Guy disguises himself as a woman to get a job at a man-hating girls' school. Haven't seen this one yet but it sounds interesting.
Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5185] Thu, 31 May 2007 23:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kasimasi - Girl Meets Girl.

In the first episode, the main character is accidentally killed by aliens. Who bring him back as a girl. And tell the whole world about it in their apology.

Subtitled episodes can be downloaded via BitTorrent and eMule. I can give links for the eMule downloads.

Since my computer was a bit slow and dropping frames (often one with the subtitles!) I had only watched a couple of episodes. Now that I have a media server that can display it properly, I'm up to episode 10.
Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5186] Fri, 01 June 2007 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Erin Halfelven  is currently offline Erin Halfelven
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The manga of this is out in English as Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl. I have it, the first two volumes, and it's pretty good but the translation is sort of stilted and disjointed, going more for literal translation than effective storytelling. In particular, the word ballons have no tails making it difficult to see who is speaking. The artist also confuses things with inconsistent use of hair color "tints".

The plot is good, the characters are nice but the translation of storytelling conventions of manga into American idioms are not even attempted. Reading the book back to front, right to left is not hard for me, I'm ambidextrous so it's as easy as using my left hand on the mouse, easier. But many American readers are going to need more help to stay focussed on the story when constant effort is needed to figure out who is talking, even when only one face is in the frame.

Pretty Face, which is available in an amateur translation is much better done as far as being easily understood. Both stories are good and fun.

Cheeky Angel is delightful, I have both the manga and the anime, which BTW have slightly different endings.

- Erin

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Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5187] Fri, 01 June 2007 00:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aylwin  is currently offline Aylwin
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Ahh neat, sounds like it has some good potential. Smile I'm a big fan of the right-to-left manga actually. Even before I started studying Japanese, I had this weird tendency to read magazines from the back. I'd always just pick it up and open the back cover out of habit, and then flip all the way up to the front a little at a time.

This also reminds me to add Birdy the Mighty (anime) to that list. Similar sort of premise: high school guy gets killed by a crash-landed alien spaceship of what's basically an intergalactic cop. To save both their lives she melts them into one body and occasionally takes over (and transforms) to do her job.

Didn't know about the different ending on Cheeky Angel! Doh. I was just at a friend's house who had the whole set, but she said it was basically the same as the anime. The anime art style takes some getting used to but it grew on me. The first opening song and last ending song too! Good stuff.
Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5190] Sat, 02 June 2007 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I forgot also to add .Hack//SIGN, under anime: player gets trapped inside an MMORPG, intrigue ensues. It's a bit of a spoiler to even list it in this list, so... apologies Smile On the other hand, I wasn't even going to watch it until I read a spoiler about the TG tie-in. It's pretty decent though. Sort of an abrupt ending, but that's because it's meant to tie in with several games and anime series.
Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5201] Wed, 13 June 2007 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I saw ".hack" in some sort of episode format, and about four episodes in I wanted to slap the shit out of the main character. He's always whining "I just want to be alone!" in exactly the same way I've seen in at least one other anime (Neon Genesis Evangelion). I hate this. I really hate it when it seems to be the focus of the plot; I want to see the main character really in pain after a few episodes of this crap. Like skin flayed off and rubbed with salt. I want to hear his screams, I want to see his blood...

I really really really hate ".hack" for that reason. The rest of the characters were interesting, and the plot could've been good; but that one little depressive whiny shit ruined the entire thing for me. I did not finish watching the series, and I hope the little fucker got paralyzed by a spinal hit and then slowly consumed by birds one peck at a time, starting with his eyes.


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Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5202] Thu, 14 June 2007 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 13 June 2007 17:38

I want to see the main character really in pain after a few episodes of this crap. Like skin flayed off and rubbed with salt. I want to hear his screams, I want to see his blood...


Hahahah.. awesome Smile I honestly felt the same way (ditto on Evangelion). The actual plot idea of Hack Sign is pretty OK. But it takes for-freaking-ever to actually get going anywhere (literally half way through the series) and then the ending is a real let down of a not-an-ending after all that time. 'Cause in reality it's just a piece of a big game/anime/manga mega-story, much of the rest of which is not all that interesting.

Which is all very sad, because it has some nice ideas to it and I thought the whole Tsukasa/Subaru thing was really sweet in the end. Tough to stick it out through the whole thing for just that though.
Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5203] Thu, 14 June 2007 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So I'll take this as a non-recommendation. Smile

Another plot device that annoys me, and is common in some anime, is when two people have info that if they shared it would solve all problems. Most anime and manga that use this device don't go for drama or comedy where coincidence or enemy action prevent the sharing of the data - no, they go for simple aggravation where the two main characters simply decide not to tell!

You seldom see this in American fiction with one exception: romance novels. I read romance novels and when I run into this I take the book down to the used book mart soonest before I do something regretful like burning it.

- Erin
Re: Anime/Manga recommendations [message #5204] Fri, 15 June 2007 03:26 Go to previous message
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Erin Halfelven wrote on Wed, 13 June 2007 23:30

So I'll take this as a non-recommendation. Smile


Pretty much, yeah Smile Just know the main plot centers around an in-game male player who's stuck in this MMORPG, and several supporting characters who are trying to help or hinder him, including one in-game female player who's falling in love with him. Then watch the end of episode 24. Now you've seen the interesting parts!

Like I said I like the concept a lot, just bad execution...

I actually think the "just won't tell" thing is interesting because it seems realistic. People do that, and never realize that if they'd just talk things would be a lot better. Even Tuck does it to some degree ("I'll just wait a little longer, I'll just wait a little bit longer.." *blammo* Smile thinking specifically of Travis and the scene with Mike at the amusement park)

To get back on topic, another one to throw out there: Fushigi Yuugi. The first series has Nuriko, and Genbu Kaiden (manga only so far) has Limdo/Uruki, who is a guy who turns into a woman to use his/her celestial powers.
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