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Some questions about Chapter 67: Tucker Punched [message #6395] Sun, 06 June 2010 23:01 Go to next message
Trisha  is currently offline Trisha
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Re reading Chapter 67 again. The first time I read this I felt something was wrong with the accusations Mike was making about Val lie'n to him. Now I realize what it was.

When did Val ever lie to him? Val had been seeing Travis, he never denied that. Each time Mike saw Travis and Val together or knew they where getting together Mike just asked if Val was thinking, which she was. Countless nights she lay in bed thinking. She even slowed things down one night to walk around with Travis to think. She had thought and come to her own conclusions but Mike evedently could not accept these conclusions.

This puts Mike in a whole new light for me at this point in time. For me it paints him as a bigoted, hypocritical, arse that feels if he cannot control what Tuck/Val does and chooses then that choice is by default wrong.

Anyone else get that sort of vibe from the entire scene outside Kims car at Kings Island?
Re: Some questions about Chapter 67: Tucker Punched [message #6410] Tue, 22 June 2010 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stanman  is currently offline stanman
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Best ask Ellen about that.
Re: Some questions about Chapter 67: Tucker Punched [message #6413] Mon, 05 July 2010 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ellen Hayes  is currently offline Ellen Hayes
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I don't know what vibe(s) anyone else got from this, but I know what was going on with Mike...

Tucker lied by OMISSION. This may happen (a lot!) in an ordinary relationship, but Tucker&Mike isn't, in Mike's OR Tucker's eyes, an ordinary relationship. Lying systematically over months, even if it is 'only' by omission, is Not Acceptable Behaviour. It's far less acceptable when the lie concerns something so important as a could-get-you-killed relationship. (ref: hate crimes against gay students)

Mike holds Tuck to a very high standard, and Tucker blew it here.


Ellen
nosig
Re: Some questions about Chapter 67: Tucker Punched [message #6434] Thu, 29 July 2010 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caisha  is currently offline Caisha
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Tuck lied to Mike not just by omission but both indirectly (allowing others to pass on lies to him and failing to correct it privately) and directly about the purpose of his time with Travis and the nature of their association.

For example, at one point he acknowledges to himself that he is lying, specifically, to Mike.

Quote:

" "I said I'd go work on Travis' computer tonight, remember?" I said exasperatedly. If I was going to go to the trouble of thinking up a believable lie, the least he could do is pay attention. "Jeez!" "

-Tuck, in "Pillow Tuck" (#63)


I dislike violence... but I can understand Mike feeling both hurt and betrayed, especially given the nature of their relationship. There wasn't just a single incident, there was a pattern of deceit and mistrust extending over a long period of time.
Re: Some questions about Chapter 67: Tucker Punched [message #6435] Sat, 31 July 2010 21:13 Go to previous message
stanman  is currently offline stanman
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Tuck was a bit confused as he was being Valerie at the time
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