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Tuck 124 [message #4900] Sun, 07 January 2007 13:54 Go to next message
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Tuck 124 is out and all I'm going to say at this stage is

1. That is one heck of a costume for Tuck

2. When will Tuck and Jill get together


Time to read a second time to get the stuff I missed while laughing.
Re: Tuck 124 [message #4901] Sun, 07 January 2007 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ricky's costume isn't bad either.

I was wondering the same thing about Tuck and Jill.

And the whole computer class bit was evil.
Re: Tuck 124 [message #4903] Sun, 07 January 2007 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the "interesting development" front, the relationship between Tuck and Debbie continues to defrost. Not very fast, admittedly, but there is some thawing there. Debbie apparently decided to force the issue and have that long-overdue talk with Tuck next chapter.

I wonder who leaked his cell number, though? I mean, there is supposedly a very small pool of people who even know the number. Bill, Sarah and Mike certainly know, but it seems unlikely that they would break security like that; Brian and Susan probably know, but they haven't much contact with Debbie.

Dan and George (and maybe Book) are likely to know it, and they might fold under pressure from Debbie; but would she put the pressure without an immediate need?

Now, some of the "neutrals" -- people who are reasonably close to Tuck to know it, and also reasonably close to Debbie to give her the number without thinking anything wrong. Let's see some suspects...

Hmmm, Kim was still with Mike when they got the phones; he probably gave her his number, and might have given also Tuck's. She was also Debbie's deputy regarding Tuck's job, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to pass the number along.

Jill is in a similar position: she's grown very close to Tuck and might have his number, but now she's Debbie's deputy and might have passed the number.

Kelly... no, I don't think so, she's a friend, but not yet "inner circle" with either the Rat Boyz or the Pack.

The other Packettes... while they probably would give Debbie the number, it's doubtful that they themselves would have it.

Rachel? It's a possibility, certainly. I don't place her very high, but she's on the list. My money is still on Kim.



Now, the other relevant event in this episode is about Jill's family situation. We (and Tuck) are becoming aware that things might be worse than we previously thought: now Jill is actively searching for ways to avoid going home. One wonders what "Asshole Stepfather" and "Asshole Stepbrothers" are doing. If things come to a head, there might be spillover to the Tuckers.

Sir Lee


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Re: Tuck 124 [message #4904] Sun, 07 January 2007 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As an asthmatic and COPD sufferer, I can appreciate Tuck's dilemna when the laughing got out of hand. In fact, that damn scene caused sympathetic wheezing but I got over it quicker than Tuck did.

Wonder if Betty had a private party to go to after school? Smile

- Erin
Re: Tuck 124 [message #4905] Mon, 08 January 2007 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, more on this chapter subplot....
From Chapt 124

"Thanks," I told her, panting a little. It still hurt sometimes when I moved wrong, and I wasn't entirely sure what 'move wrong' was. There seemed to be multiple instances of the class. "And, man, I gotta get smaller breast forms... I looked like a porn star in the mirror."

Later on a discussion with Jill about her bra size and what Valerie thinks is appropriate for herself. Now the question is - what's Valerie's natural size now, without the forms? As I recall, she's already had one form reduction and now she's contemplating a second. It's beginning to read like she doesn't need any, and it means trouble for Tuck in any future altercation if his shirt is ripped off in public...

Valerie seems to be getting along with the Parker's dog, implied by the subconscious empathizing of what the dog's thinking. Rolling Eyes Certainly a lot more that Brian's cat.

Debbie showing up at the Parker's. Was she asked to come by the Parkers to discuss letting Val go? I'm betting Debbie came over just to give Mrs. Parker a makeover for her Halloween costume and Valerie hyperventilates before realizing what's really happening.

[Updated on: Mon, 08 January 2007 01:30]

Re: Tuck 124 [message #4906] Mon, 08 January 2007 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lurker wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 06:27


Later on a discussion with Jill about her bra size and what Valerie thinks is appropriate for herself.


This was what was nagging me when I woke up this morning. Perhaps Tuck(or Val) will never get to be romantic with Jill. It seems perhaps there relationship is heading in a different direction. More like sisters maybe. I can't see lovers discussing things like this, but maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Tuck 124 [message #4907] Mon, 08 January 2007 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Believe me, lesbian lovers talk about bra sizes. Smile Jeanne was a B, I'm a G. It came up.

- Erin
Re: Tuck 124 [message #4908] Mon, 08 January 2007 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyone else think that knock on the door was going to be Travis?

I'm still trying to figure out Debbie's motives here. Exchanging nametags, so to speak, with Tuck certainly ought to fuel rumors at the school that they're closely allied, if not a couple again. Not that everyone would care, but a sizable percentage of the junior class would have been in at least one of the eight classes Tuck and Debbie took for each other before Tuck left school on Friday. This suggests a stronger bond than hiring Tuck to DJ Debbie's party did, and makes me wonder a little whether Debbie had more input into the Pack's peace conference on Thursday than she let on.

Then again, I guess it could be a simple announcement that Tuck's under Debbie's protection -- Debbie having already established herself in the past few weeks as a school VIP and a force to be reckoned with.

In contrast, Debbie coming to the Parkers' could actually be innocent and trivial. They do need to exchange homework assignments and the like, and tomorrow during the party probably isn't a good time. (If Debbie can reassure herself that things are quiet again on the job front there -- or head off further problems if they're not -- all the better.)

[Scratch my idea from the last chapter notes that Val's geek side was making Miz Parker nervous because of its male nature. The DIY element of Ricky's light prop amazed her, but clearly didn't bother her.]

Nothing, really, to add to the speculation about the Jill-Tuck relationship change, except that things figure to be more interesting tonight if Mike turns down the invitation. Sabrina's speculations as to what was going on in Tuck's room are probably common knowledge among the Pack by now, unless Jill explained things after lunch. (And that would include Debbie -- possibly another motivation for her visit to the Parkers.)

(Unless I missed it, we never got to see what Valerie F. was wearing. I wonder whether Mike got her included in the Herc/Xena group. Probably too late and too blatant to have her dress as an alternate Jake Blues...)

Eric
Re: Tuck 124 [message #4910] Thu, 11 January 2007 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Still no sign of Travis.

Halloween should be a special day for Travis. He meet Valerie at a costume party, and this would be the anniversary of their first dance.

I suspect that Travis has been planning something...

I suspect Travis has been doing something interesting that we don't know about....

I am looking forward to a surprise.

Erik


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Re: Tuck 124 [message #4911] Thu, 11 January 2007 05:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two points occurred to me after my 1/8 comments:

I wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 04:20:

I'm still trying to figure out Debbie's motives here.

I'd have a hard time believing it, but I guess the possibility exists that Debbie IS coming to the Parkers' to fire -- uh, "reassign" -- Val, and figures that Debbie's personal support, as demonstrated by the DJ gig, the Halloween assist at school, and whatever she now has in mind for Tuck to take on, ought to let him down easy. If so, of course, she's almost certainly wrong. But it's not clear how rational Debbie is when it comes to Tuck/Val these days: she may still think that she can convince Tuck to do whatever she wants him to. She may even be right, if Tuck can twist it around in his mind so that it doesn't come off as subservience, the way he did four weeks ago when Debbie and Sarah Tucker were arguing about his keeping the Parker job as Val.

me, again:

...Debbie coming to the Parkers' could actually be innocent and trivial. They do need to exchange homework assignments and the like, and tomorrow during the party probably isn't a good time.

And you KNOW Debbie doesn't want any part of meeting Tuck at his house to do it over the weekend.

* * * * *

As Erik-with-a-K notes, Halloween is the one-year anniversary of Travis meeting Val. I don't personally expect a surprise along the lines that Erik does, but Travis might well consider it a good time to try to explain things to her, whether he's in a new relationship or not.

I wonder if Lisa's having a Halloween party again this year with Travis as a guest. If Travis wants to encounter Val without facing his discomfort at finding her in Tuck mode, the Parkers' place or a Red Bluff-people party would seem to be his only real possibilities now -- not that it'd be easy to get Val to the latter.

Eric

[Updated on: Thu, 11 January 2007 05:07]

Re: Tuck 124 [message #4912] Thu, 11 January 2007 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After reviewing the Valium/REM-sleep/nightmare interaction one thing that I hope will happen is Jill's presence will allow Tuck to sleep through the night just as Amy's did. I worry about Tuck not sleeping because chronic lack of REM-sleep will have unfortunate side effects.

At least that's what I thought until I did some Googling; current studies don't show anything but the fatigue effects. I think it probably would interfere with Tuck's recovery, though.

Back to Jill:
-Upcoming sleepover (in Tuck's upper bunk?) establishes that her presence allows him to sleep through the night;
-This is viewed as a Good Thing by Dana, who describes her as "a third-shift healthcare aide whose presence greatly enhanced the patient's recovery," thus making her continued presence a justifiable medical expense;
-Jill is able to quit her job at Blockbuster and go to work at the Tuckers'. Would D&E be involved in this or does Bill have sufficient HR resources through Freehold to take care of the paperwork?
-"To avoid traveling during the height of the commute" Jill could 'temporarily' move into either Tuck's or Susan's room.

There are other things that could happen such as Jill petitioning for emancipation like Debbie or some interaction between Bill and Jill's stepfather (possibly reminiscent of Alfred Doolittle and Henry Higgins).
Re: Tuck 124 [message #4971] Sun, 04 February 2007 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe that Debbie is feeling that the blowup with Tuck was
a big mistake and is trying to ease back into a relationship with
casual innocent contacts like the DJ job, the ID switch, and the
English paper call. So the visit should be harmless, exchanging
homework assignments and talking about DJing and a little job
support.

Kim's costume. Jake who?

I guess the Elwood bit was about Mike's costume. Where is that from?

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Re: Tuck 124 [message #4972] Sun, 04 February 2007 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Morgan wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 13:19

Kim's costume. Jake who?

I guess the Elwood bit was about Mike's costume. Where is that from?


Jake & Elwood? The Blues Brothers (from the movie of the same name?
Re: Tuck 124 [message #6559] Thu, 24 February 2011 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was re-reading this tonight, and came to the line "I only had so many doses of inhalants I could take in a short time before I'd spontaneously ignite or disassemble or something."

Perhaps it's the nuke-geek in me, but for some reason, I imagined Tuck meaning the word 'disassemble' in the miljargon sense. Shocked

Though I suspect that if any of the Tuckers were prone to supercriticality, it would be Sarah. 'Spontaneous disassembly of the critical assembly' indeed!

Re: Tuck 124 [message #6617] Wed, 23 March 2011 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Schol-R-LEA wrote on Fri, 25 February 2011 03:38

Perhaps it's the nuke-geek in me, but for some reason, I imagined Tuck meaning the word 'disassemble' in the miljargon sense.


Oh yes, indeed; that was in fact exactly what I/Tuck meant. Although a 'fizzle' in the nuclear sense is still a rather rapid and energetic disassembly in the standing-next-to-it sense.


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Re: Tuck 124 [message #6657] Wed, 06 April 2011 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, I was reading it in the Grey Goo sense. I am now enlightened. ;-)
Re: Tuck 124 [message #6724] Sat, 09 April 2011 13:51 Go to previous message
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OtteryLexa wrote on Wed, 06 April 2011 16:44

Oh, I was reading it in the Grey Goo sense. I am now enlightened. Wink

That was not what I was THINKING, but it's also valid.

Ellen
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