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Tucker book? [message #5094] Thu, 15 March 2007 01:42 Go to next message
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Has anything been decided about publishing a Tucker book? There doesn't seem to be anything here since february last year.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5101] Fri, 16 March 2007 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, well, blame that on me. I have to translate a bunch of raw text into some ancient version of PDF without the Adobe tools; pick things like fonts and sizes and line spacing and so on (ANY choice will make a large number of vocal people disagree and insinuate I am either stupid or evil); and come up with $150 per issue, if I want to sell internationally (which the 10% or so of letters and posters suggest I do). Also I have no cover design. Then there's what _I_ would like to do, which may or not be possible...
And any test versions I make will be approximations at best; the raw test will be the $150 version as printed, and changes will cost money. (Yes, I kept looking, and lulu.com actually makes the most sense... *sighs*)

I've been working VERY slowly, when I can stand thinking about it.

It's not dead, but snails run over it from behind...


Ellen
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Re: Tucker book? [message #5102] Fri, 16 March 2007 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd really love to see this happen. I do know cheaper places than Lulu but they each have their own problems, however, you can use

http://store.comixpress.com/printing/perfect.php

To do a proof for you, at about 40 bucks. They can print the books too but they don't do fulfillment for text trades, only comic books so you would have to buy a bunch and take care of shipping yourself. BREEEP! Who needs that hassle?

Unfortunately, after using comicxpress to do a proof, you'd have to do another with Lulu anyway because of Lulu's rules. Sigh.

- Erin
Re: Tucker book? [message #5104] Sat, 17 March 2007 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would like me to do anything? I'm not sure how much spare time I'll have but I'd like to help.

As for fonts and sizes, most books usually say what font was used, so pick a book you found easy to read and see what it says.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5107] Sun, 18 March 2007 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mspiratey wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 06:52

As for fonts and sizes, most books usually say what font was used,



What??

I did a pseudorandom sample of my shelves today, and I found NOT ONE instance of the book telling me what font or size was used. This covered a publish-date span of forty years, several publishers, and several formats.

It would be nice for me if they DID, but wishing don't make it so.

Why ... HOW can you possibly claim this??


Ellen
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Re: Tucker book? [message #5108] Sun, 18 March 2007 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 04:50

mspiratey wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 06:52

As for fonts and sizes, most books usually say what font was used,



What??

I did a pseudorandom sample of my shelves today, and I found NOT ONE instance of the book telling me what font or size was used. This covered a publish-date span of forty years, several publishers, and several formats.

It would be nice for me if they DID, but wishing don't make it so.

Why ... HOW can you possibly claim this??


Ellen
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I've seen some that do, but I wouldn't say most. Maybe it's a British publisher thing.

Quick survey of those books in reach of my arms while sitting in bed:

(Oy, some of these books have been here a while; I should tidy more... but all the others are in boxes right now.)

Hardback edition of Night Watch, by Terry Pratchett; 11pt & 14.5pt Meridien.

Hardback edition of Making History, by Stephen Fry; font Centaur, size unspecified.

Paperpack edition of The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula Le Guin; font Goudy, size unspecified

Hardback edition of Yes Prime Minister; 11 & 13 pt Times

Paperpack edition of Temps by various; 10 & 12pt Monophoto Melior

That's out of 16 in current reach, and now I have dust all over my duvet. (I should tidy more; some of these books have been lying here a while...)


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5109] Sun, 18 March 2007 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most people would have a hard time telling those apart, they all look like Times, more or less. Smile But Times is a bit "blacker" than the rest.

I've used 11 (or 11.5) pt Times/Times New Roman on 12 pt lines with an extra 2 pt leading between paragraphs for some of the 6x9 Trades I've put together for people.

Why Times? Times is specifically designed to be forgiving of cheap printing processes and POD printing is low middle quality. The extra leading on every line is to relieve the blackness of Times on book-length lines since Times was meant originally for the short lines of newspaper columns.

Another reason for Times: you know the printer has it (or its clone Times New Roman). Of those others, any printer is likely to have Goudy but Centaur and Meridien are less common and I think Melior is not common on this side the Atlantic. (Monophoto is a brandname).

If you're supplying PDFs (what Lulu wants), you can include the font so anything is available. But the fonts the printer has are likely to be higher resolution than any you've got so going with Times and NOT including the font is taking advantage of that.

- Erin
Re: Tucker book? [message #5111] Sun, 18 March 2007 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Erin Halfelven wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 08:59

Most people would have a hard time telling those apart, they all look like Times, more or less. Smile But Times is a bit "blacker" than the rest.


<hopefully>You're joking, right?</hopefully>

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I've used 11 (or 11.5) pt Times/Times New Roman on 12 pt lines with an extra 2 pt leading between paragraphs for some of the 6x9 Trades I've put together for people.

Why Times? Times is specifically designed to be forgiving of cheap printing processes and POD printing is low middle quality. The extra leading on every line is to relieve the blackness of Times on book-length lines since Times was meant originally for the short lines of newspaper columns.


You're not joking. <whimper />

Times is possibly the ugliest serif font in widespread use. It's narrow, which makes it a lot easier to justify text in narrow columns, and it makes very *black* headlines (although modern papers seldom use serifs for the screamers, at least in my experience--for reading at 10 yards, drop the serif).

Almost all the other fonts that Rachel mentioned are nicer, although as you note, only Goudy is likely to be easily available. On the other hand, Century Schoolbook (a face designed for readability) or any of the various Garamonds are likely to be easily available, and far less ... well, less *awful* than Times. Caslon is (for reasons that escape me) quite popular in book publishing as well.

Ellen, the font (and other details of interest only to type and layout geeks) is most often found in the colophon. If you've got any of the O'Reilly zoo, they almost all contain rather nice descriptions not only of what is used, but often why it's used, as well. Most of the standard paperbacks here have no information (they're bloody well not Times, though ... Smile. Likewise, the various things I've got here from second-tier publishers (gaming manuals from SJ Games, software manuals, a book from Lulu) don't, as a rule, seem to carry the information.

Quote:

Another reason for Times: you know the printer has it (or its clone Times New Roman).


The printer probably has Windows, and might even be one of the shops that still thinks that MS Word format is somehow "standard" (or even "better") because it's ubiquitous.

Sorry. Making Ellen's life harder, I suppose, by expressing dismay over a recommendation to use a typeface that was never designed for reading long narratives. Oh, well.

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Re: Tucker book? [message #5112] Sun, 18 March 2007 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, I agree. Smile

Garamond is good and New Century Schoolbook is also good. And both may well be available.

Lots of paperbacks are printed in Times because of its forgiving qualities on uncertain printing quality and low quality papers. But Lulu is not that low.

Garamond is one of the handsomest serif fonts out there and NCS is eminently readable.

But I don't consider Times to be ugly, it's just functional. Smile

You can look at fonts here http://www.linotype.com but that doesn't give you the sense of what they look like set in blocks.

I have Garamond but not Goudy or NCS. The Garamond I have is not ideal, it's a display type version not designed for body type and really only looks good in sizes bigger than 12pt. I prefer NCS to Garamond or Goudy because it is slightly blacker. Goudy comes in several varieties and some are better for body type than others.

- Erin
Re: Tucker book? [message #5113] Tue, 20 March 2007 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 04:50

mspiratey wrote on Sat, 17 March 2007 06:52

As for fonts and sizes, most books usually say what font was used,



What??

I did a pseudorandom sample of my shelves today, and I found NOT ONE instance of the book telling me what font or size was used. This covered a publish-date span of forty years, several publishers, and several formats.

It would be nice for me if they DID, but wishing don't make it so.

Why ... HOW can you possibly claim this??


Ellen
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9 out of 21 books had typeset information in them, most just gave the font name though. Ok, so maybe it's not most, but it's no uncommon.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5269] Tue, 28 August 2007 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I did this back in 2004 during one of my manic episodes. As both an experiment in book making and an experiment in what a Tuck book would be like. It's a 8.5 by 5.5 inches, contains the first 20 chapters and runs a little over 400 pages. Did the whole thing up in an old version of Publisher, took four or five days if I remember right.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/themrjackfrost/IMG_1154.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/themrjackfrost/IMG_1153.jpg


Graduate of Red Bluff High School. No, really I would not lie about something like that. LMAO when that came up as the name of one of the schools.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5270] Wed, 29 August 2007 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, so how did you make the physical book?

What font and fontsize did you use?

I am interested in this... REALLY interested.


Ellen
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Re: Tucker book? [message #5271] Wed, 29 August 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen, are you considering physically making your own books? If so google this; "book on demand publishing" "Rupert Evans". Include the quotes so you don't get too much junk pages.

The first item will be http://www.flashweb.com which publishes Book on Demand Publishing by Rupert Evans. This book explains how to physically make your own books. Some of the equiptment is expensive, like the paper cutter, but most are cheap.

Here is a link to another book which the author says complements Even's book; http://www.foxacre.com/bookpage/qgtbodp.htm

I hope this helps. And I'm also curious as to which method Jack Frost used. I'm quessing that the font size is 9 or 10.

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Re: Tucker book? [message #5272] Wed, 29 August 2007 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's possible to do a one-off book like that with a common ink-jet or laser printer and a nearby book-binder who'll have the necessary other equipment. 5"x8" would be easier than 5.5x8.5 because of needing the edge space for the trimmer. Any bigger than 5x8 would probably require printing the sheets one-up (double sided) and perfect binding. And that looks more like it was bound in signatures (folded sheets in groups).

I'm guessing 10 pt type from the penny comparison, looks like 7 lines to the inch.

So what's the font, Jack? Times? Smile

- Erin
Re: Tucker book? [message #5273] Thu, 30 August 2007 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well it was over three year ago that I made it and I while I have been able to find the files I no longer have Publisher on any of my systems. I'll take it in to work in the morning and look at it there but if I remember right it was something like 8.5 or 9 pt Times.

I got most of my info on how to make a book from www.gigabooks.net and a few other place on the web but have lost most of my web resource a couple of computer crashes ago. Gigabooks also sells supplies and "how to" books for doing your own book binding as well as jigs. The book itself is 8.5x5.5 with less then an sixteenth of an inch trimmed off the three edges. If I had a better jig at the time trimming most likely would not have been needed at all. It was printing on a Brother 1440 laser printer on Staples brand 20lb Copy paper. The pages were then cut in half so there are no signatures (sorry Erin Wink ) The cover was printing on some plain 67lb cover stock that I printed at work on a color laser machine. The paper was 11x17 that I cut down to 8.5x14 as legal sized cardstock is hard to come by. I wouldn't trust a inkjet printer for books as the ink tended to run when it get wet, laser printers are run proof as the toner is melted on to the paper by the fusser unit. I work at a copy center so had accesses to a guillotine paper cutter for cutting the papers in half and later for the trimming.

The book was bound using some Elmers tube cement. I clamped the pages together using a couple of pieces of foil wrapped scrap wood I had laying around. The foil was used to keep me from glueing the pages to the wood. After the glue set up (about 5 minutes) I removed it and then glued on the cover.

As for cost of supplies the paper is cheap runs about $32 a case (5000 sheets) and can often be found on sale. The Brother is one of the cheapest per page printers out on the market because the toner and drum unit are not one as in most small lazer printers. Too bad they don't make it any more, Brothers newer compact printer are a bit more expensive per page but not too bad. While I had free accessed to a paper cutter most copy shops will do cutting for you for not unreasonable prices. A manual guillotine cutters can be found new for less then $200. Color laser printers are getting cheaper by the minute and I have seen ones for under $300 or most copy centers have them and for cover only would be not be too bad.

Well I am just running on here so will close it for now with one more resource. This site has a good article on small run book printing. http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000014.php

Will be back tomorrow night and answer any other questions and with font and size info.


Graduate of Red Bluff High School. No, really I would not lie about something like that. LMAO when that came up as the name of one of the schools.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5274] Thu, 30 August 2007 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Josea wrote on Wed, 29 August 2007 16:22

Ellen, are you considering physically making your own books?


$*&@$@ no!


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5275] Thu, 30 August 2007 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good eye Erin it was 10pt Times.


Graduate of Red Bluff High School. No, really I would not lie about something like that. LMAO when that came up as the name of one of the schools.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5277] Sun, 02 September 2007 23:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So I went and installed Publisher on one of my machines. Increasing the page size to 6x9 (with lulu.com recommend boarders) decrees page count buy about 2pgs per chapter or about 375pgs total for the first 20 chapters.


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5282] Mon, 03 September 2007 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, that's handy... but 375 pages puts the retail price, if I go for the sell-via-Amazon option, at WELL over $20. I think.

I'm thinking roughly fifteen chapters per volume, and then I can get #28 and #29 in the same volume. I'd kill me if I left off at #27...


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5284] Mon, 03 September 2007 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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15 chapters at about 19 pages per chapter gives you 275 pages, add 5 for titles and maybe some art, 280 pages. Which is 5.60 + 1.50 for printing cost = 7.10 so that's 2.90 for profit (for you and Lulu) on the $10 wholesale cost for a book sold at $20 through Amazon. Lulu takes .58 cents and you get $2.32 for each book.

Which means you need to sell 43 books to break even on the $99 charge to start selling on Amazon.

If you sell some through Lulu to us geeks to make your nut first.

5.60 + 4.52 = 10.12 printing cost.

Subtract from $20 equal 9.88. Lulu takes 1.98 leaving you $7.90 from each book. You only need to sell 13 books to Da Tuckfen to make your nut to start selling on Amazon. Smile

Sell some eBooks through Lulu for the bare $9.88, same deal.

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Re: Tucker book? [message #5290] Tue, 04 September 2007 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Erin Halfelven wrote on Tue, 04 September 2007 04:05

Sell some eBooks through Lulu for the bare $9.88, same deal.

I would be ashamed to do this, twice over: once because I did say that the online version would always be free; and once because I detest people who whine at me about "can't you make Tuck look pretty like in a PDF file or something?" not mentioning the HUGE bloat and UNportability and general cripple-ware-ness of online pretty-printing.


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5291] Tue, 04 September 2007 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it's still available free, it's available free. Smile Asking for a donation (charging) for one version of the item does not make the free version go away.

And there are people who won't buy a book but would buy an eBook; I "sell" lots more (twice as many) eBooks of Wanda's Kelly Girl as I do the books. And Kelly Girl is available for free in three different places.

The fact that some people are annoying whiners about some things doesn't mean that there aren't non-whiners who would like to have the same thing, probably more of them.

The purpose of an eBook is not pretty-print, it's comfortable reading on screen.

If you like, you could set up a Subscription site where people could download ALL of Tuck in eBook form for one "contribution" of like $100 or something.

But the eBook is sort of beside the point. Smile

I want a Tuck book I can hold in my hand. Smile

- Erin
Re: Tucker book? [message #5296] Wed, 05 September 2007 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Tue, 04 September 2007 11:02

Erin Halfelven wrote on Tue, 04 September 2007 04:05

Sell some eBooks through Lulu for the bare $9.88, same deal.

I would be ashamed to do this, twice over: once because I did say that the online version would always be free; and once because I detest people who whine at me about "can't you make Tuck look pretty like in a PDF file or something?" not mentioning the HUGE bloat and UNportability and general cripple-ware-ness of online pretty-printing.


I finally broke down and installed Acrobat reader on my Dana (Palm OS) and it eats a ton of storage for the "privilege" of reading bloated stuff.

But doing really *basic* HTML doesn't bloat much and is fairly portable. And converts well to RTF though that bloats up a bit.

In the unlikely event that you ever decide to approve either format, I can do the conversion easily enough.
Re: Tucker book? [message #5298] Wed, 05 September 2007 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brooke wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 08:22

But doing really *basic* HTML doesn't bloat much and is fairly portable.

Honestly, that might have been a better choice overall. However, 'tis done, and my fingers speak my textual encoding far faster than they would speak HTML. Not to mention, I despise the switching of standards in the middle.
And, text is even more accessible than HTML.

Brooke wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 08:22

And converts well to RTF though that bloats up a bit.

I went and looked at RTF, finally; and gee, what do you know, it's a standard (from DEC in 1987) that Microsoft bought and "expanded" into incompatibility and bloat. (gosh, when have they ever done that? she asked sarcastically) Based on that alone, I'd ban conversion to RTF.

Brooke wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 08:22

In the unlikely event that you ever decide to approve either format,

Don't delay starting your weight-loss program waiting for it... it's somewhat less likely than Bush declaring himself a war criminal and putting himself in Guantanamo Bay.

Brooke wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 08:22

I can do the conversion easily enough.

So could I, and unlike the rest of you, the cycle time ("Like this?"/"No, the other way"/"Like that?"/"Sort of but smaller"/"Like this?") when _I_ do it is minutes or less. Also, if I do it, I do not have to worry even in my most paranoid phases about someone else altering it or leaving little cookies inside or anything.


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5299] Wed, 05 September 2007 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Printers work from pdf or sometimes doc files so getting Tuck into print is likely to require conversion to pdf at some point.

Yeah, it's bloated in the sense of size compared to .txt but .pdf is really an imaging format. It's more bloated than it needs to be (my brother was at Adobe when it was developed and he hates it) but it's a sort of standard now like left-hand drive in the US or 50 cycle current in Europe.

For its purpose, making it possible to specify how text will appear to a useful (to printers) degree of precision in a still editable (with the right tool) document, it's what works in the widest set of conditions.

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Re: Tucker book? [message #5303] Thu, 06 September 2007 04:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 15:22

Brooke wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 08:22

But doing really *basic* HTML doesn't bloat much and is fairly portable.

Honestly, that might have been a better choice overall. However, 'tis done, and my fingers speak my textual encoding far faster than they would speak HTML. Not to mention, I despise the switching of standards in the middle.
And, text is even more accessible than HTML.



Don't laugh, Ellen, but I write in plaintext these days too. Embarassed The thing that 'let' me do it was a few perl scripts; Markdown, MultiMarkDown, and SmartyPants. They basically take plaintext in the form that's usually seen with, say, email/usenet style typography (ie, with _emphases_ /like/ *that*, and

## headers like that

(for instance) into clean html with typographically-correct characters, blah-blah.

The Tuck plaintext originals would need some cleanup before it would go through and make the right output, but not much, and a lot of it could probably be done with a sed script. Smile

Links:
Markdown
MultiMarkDown
SmartyPants

Then you (or someone) can write CSS to make it look the way you want, and write a for-print-media CSS to make it *print* the way you want, and possibly even generate the PDF right out of a web browser. Smile


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Re: Tucker book? [message #5305] Thu, 06 September 2007 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rachel.greenham wrote on Thu, 06 September 2007 04:27


Then you (or someone) can write CSS to make it look the way you want, and write a for-print-media CSS to make it *print* the way you want, and possibly even generate the PDF right out of a web browser. Smile


If you go to the trouble of generating well-formed XML, don't rely on a browser to generate your PDF. Recruit a geek!

*laugh*

Seriously, just get someone who can customize some xsl:fo stuff. It eats your XML, and produces pdf. Apache FOP, various other packages (I use it to generate pdfs, and as Erin noted, printers prefer pdf). Some tweaking (generally) required, which is why you want a nice markup geek to offer services.

The alternative is to find some nice dtp geek to set it in framemaker or quark or whatever adobe's selling to that purpose this week. But that software is frighteningly expensive (imo).

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Pardon me for intruding, but as a serious bookhead I'm interested in having Tuck in print. So, I'd like to contribute something that may help.

Ellen said "I have to translate a bunch of raw text into some ancient version of PDF without the Adobe tools;"

I've got an Adobe tool that may be useful. The original store bought discs for Adobe PageMaker 6.5 and Adobe PageMaker 7.0 Upgrade. And the PM7.0 user manual. This qualifies as an ancient tool for making pdf files.

http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc8/Hardrockminer/?action=view&cu rrent=Dobe1.jpg

http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc8/Hardrockminer/?action=view&cu rrent=Dobe2.jpg

One minor problem, PM6.5 is for Windows 95. *evil grin* Knowing how some people really detest MicroCrap, the end user may have to put a clothes pin on her nose and wear rubber gloves while installing the programs.

I don't need them any more, and would be willing to ship them via parcel post to a new home. Free.

So, Ellen, if you want the program, send Bookhead an email with a shipping address.
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I realize that it is a major hassle to work with, and would be massive over-kill, but... can't you find a publisher that will work with TEX? It would give you better control than any other publishing tool I know of, and you wouldn't kill yourself using some proprietary junk for it. If all else fails, LATEX can be converted into PDF in any number of ways.

(Actually, thinking about it, for an experienced programmer working from a vanilla-ASCII original, LATEX would probably less hassle than the "desktop publishing" stuff anyway. This would also be true of the PostScript and XML options, however, and the arguments against it are much the same.)

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Bumping this to indicate that I am still interested in obtaining a copy of the Tuck Saga in dead tree format and willing to pay for the privilege*.

--iWindoze

* Just not this month or without some advance warning, I'm all tapped out this month and live on an extremely fixed income so I need to save up for something like this. Still would do it for Tuck though.

[Updated on: Wed, 06 April 2011 16:08]

Re: Tucker book? [message #6750] Mon, 11 April 2011 22:05 Go to previous message
Doragoon  is currently offline Doragoon
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Scary, but as the stories get longer, and the price of e-readers comes down... i think i can get an e-reader for less than the cost of the ink and paper.
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