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Request For Input - Choir/Singing [message #6773] Wed, 20 April 2011 15:25 Go to next message
Ellen Hayes  is currently offline Ellen Hayes
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Anyone with any experience in either of these, let me know... I need all the info and anecdotes I can get.

Ellen
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Re: Request For Input - Choir/Singing [message #6785] Thu, 21 April 2011 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doragoon  is currently offline Doragoon
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Can do. What kinda information do you need? Songs? What a typical class is like? Choir geek stories are a lot like band geek but with a lot more stupidity because they lack the provable skill of being able to play an instrument which presumably band members must be able to do. Choirs thus can have a lot more people who really shouldn't be there, and they can find inventive ways to prove it.

Would you like them here or should we just e-mail it directly to you?
Re: Request For Input - Choir/Singing [message #6786] Thu, 21 April 2011 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Realmfighter  is currently offline Realmfighter
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What Kind of Choir Too? Professional Audition Choirs or just School choirs?

If the conductor doesn't threaten you with a bat at least once then you know they don't care nearly enough.
Re: Request For Input - Choir/Singing [message #6789] Sat, 23 April 2011 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ellen Hayes  is currently offline Ellen Hayes
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Put 'em here, since I won't use them directly.

Well, duh, folks; if you're reading Tucky Seasons, you should've guessed that I'm looking for things applicable to The Kingston Girls' Choir, that Jane signed Tucker up for. ALL things. Type away; it'll give me something to read in between bouts of writing. You really can't write too much on this topic.

But don't give me "I heard" or "I think" or "I guess"; I can do that myself. Just what you've experienced. No, doesn't have to be in an actual girls' choir; but I don't want the thing your great-aunt told you happened to her best friend back in WW2.

Ellen
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Re: Request For Input - Choir/Singing [message #6791] Sat, 23 April 2011 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doragoon  is currently offline Doragoon
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Such as in song selections?

Lutheran Hymns.

Not only are they simple enough for children's choirs, they are beautiful. Also, being in the WASP nest, that would fit the location. They just feel so old world boarding school. we sang them even at our catholic school.

Other than that, Show Tunes. Think glee but without the vocal effects and no accompaniment other than a piano. And tuck starts reaching for the cheese grater from the chior diector forcing him to sing "I feel pretty" until he sounds like he means it.

There's also the unfortunate tendancy of choirs to try to be ethnically diverse. If they can't be in their membership, then in there song selections. Seems like every all too white choir (every one i've been in) has to do Hispanic and African songs.

It's also only, what, four weeks from July 4th? There are plenty of patriotic songs to choose from. Our choir would usually take that long to prepare for a concert. learn 3-4 songs in two weeks, then move on to another 3-4 songs and then then choose between those songs which sound best for the group and the venue.

We're also only a few months after Lord of the Dance performed at the Oscars, and are at the height of the celtic cultural revival. A few Irish/Scottish folk songs would not be unexpected. Our choir was still singing them in 98-99.


Other than song selection, I don't know how much my experiences would help since most of it is in all male or mixed choirs. yes the first sopranos ARE as arrogant as people joke about. there are always WAY too many mezzo-soprano, most of whom the choir director is just keeping back until they can teach them to sing properly (soprano).

I'm expecting Val not to be taken seriously by those who consider themselves real singers because she isn't singing soprano. After all, everyone is a soprano who can be, and a few who can't. the lower voices were seen as less serious musicians. Even being billed as sopranos in performances to increase their desirableness to the public.

My friends in our sister choir were always complaining about how much politics and infighting there was in their choir. The director had a LOT of power to assign parts since the difference in singing range is not usually a limiting factor. More important is the tonal quality of the voice. This means that if they aren't singing a solo, it doesn't matter who's actually singing it.

If the choir director wants a contralto, that's probably to sing the part of an old woman or a villain, not to specifically fill out the harmony. In female choirs the lowest note doesn't mean as much. In theory it still establishes the inversion of the chord, but it lacks the power of a male base.

My first few weeks in a mixed chior, the sopranos made me wish i was back in men's chior. They really are that bad. Mean and arrogant. Very few of them actualy sing as well as they think they do. but they ALL sing like the world revolves around thier voice. Usualy it does since they get the melody. but heaven help the choir when they have to sing harmony.

I don't like saying this about them. i have known a couple nice sopranos, but since female vocal parts are defined by atitude, not by ability, the corrilation has held in every chior i've been in or talked with.


I'll let someone else talk now and then I'll probably remember more stories.
Re: Request For Input - Choir/Singing [message #6792] Sat, 23 April 2011 22:44 Go to previous message
Realmfighter  is currently offline Realmfighter
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Adding to Doragoons song Selection

Upbeat Gospel Music. Like this after 41 seconds in. It is the most fun thing to sing even if you don't really mean what the lyrics are saying.

On diversity in music, you have not known hell until you've had to sing a song in 10 different languages, none of them you know (Butchered English does not count)

I've sung more 80's Pop then Show tunes. And believe me when I say that no one has to fake enthusiasm in the Bee Gees.

On Sopranos, I've never really known any where that arrogant, but I guess it may be due to different types of choirs. Maybe it's because most people are just there because they want something to fill out their time tables that isn't all that difficult. If anything the Alto's are the ones most likely to be seen as arrogant but its not exactly like they think they're better then everyone else.
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