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ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6550] Fri, 18 February 2011 11:00 Go to next message
Haslor  is currently offline Haslor
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Using several open source programs you could create ePub documents and self publish the Tuck series on all the of the devices. song requires you to send it to sony to get it on their reader, but Apple allows for self publishing as well as the Nook and the Amazons Kindle.
For each you only need an ISBN number which you can buy.
The some of the authoring software is open source.
ePub is an open source format

You might be able to sell the story in chapters and solve part of you money problems.
Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6844] Fri, 27 May 2011 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gah! Another forum spambot?

[EDIT: the spam message has been removed by a moderator; therefore, just to clarify, I'm *not* calling Haslor as a spambot.]

[Updated on: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:55]


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Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6845] Fri, 27 May 2011 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like.

Sony doesn't require that you 'send' it somewhere; you can load unlocked epubs from your computer. The same is true for all epub-based readers, including Nook and Kobo, and is also true for Android phone applications.

Not sure whether you can do that with the iPad, though in the heyday of Stanza, you could certainly do it for the iPhone and iPod Touch, so I imagine that that's still true.

For Amazon, I *believe* (but am not certain) that you have to email it to yourself via amazon. The Kindle uses a proprietary .mobi+drm solution that has the extension .azw.

If you wanted to go for something with DRM (though I can't imagine Ellen doing so, all things considered), then the vast majority of epub-based readers use the ineffective Adobe-based 'adept' (removed trivially with a python script called 'inept', which is a better description of the encryption applied). For the iPad, the encryption used is the same FairPlay that Apple used to use on music files. I don't know if that's broken or breakable.

This does mean that you can't share encrypted/DRM'd between the Apple walled garden and the Adobe-based walled garden (but that's normal for DRM). The Amazon walled garden is twice walled, effectively: different format, different DRM.

There's no need for an ISBN in self-publishing.

Amy!
Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6859] Tue, 31 May 2011 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a Kindle, and I converted the Tuck saga to read it on my Kindle.

You do not have to e-mail a file to the get it on the Kindle. That is just if you want Amazon to automatically convert it and charge you for the privilege.

The Tuck chapters are just plain text and the Kindle can read these just fine. Just copy them straight over using the USB cable and you can read them. of course, then each chapter is listed as a single "book"

If you want all of the chapters in a single book file, you can use the free mobipocket creator program or the open source Calibre program to combine the chapters into a single book in the mobipocket format.

Amazon's proprietary format is Mobipocket with DRM, but the books aren't required to use it. they only come in that format if sold through Amazon's kindle store.

Other web sites sell books for the kindle in the Mobipocket format without DRM. For example, Baen (SF and Fantasy publisher) sells their books on their own website in this format.


I don't think the original poster was a spambot. There was no mention of anything for sale or a web link. I think it was an honest suggestion to Ellen to put the Tuck Saga up for sale as a response to her constant money problems.

I haven't read up on Amazon's Kindle store publishing policies, but there doesn't seem to be any initial cost to publishing.
I think there is some clause that the Kindle store price has to match what is offered elsewhere, though. For example a book sold in Barnes and Noble has to have the same price for the Kindle. That might prevent her from being able to continue posting the story for free.

It might be more trouble than it is worth for Ellen to set up her own site to sell the book, instead of than her current Paypal donation method.

[Updated on: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:46]


--Brandon Young
Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6860] Tue, 31 May 2011 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brandonyoung wrote on Tue, 31 May 2011 23:35

I don't think the original poster was a spambot. There was no mention of anything for sale or a web link. I think it was an honest suggestion to Ellen to put the Tuck Saga up for sale as a response to her constant money problems.


Actually, I was referring to another message, which has since been deleted. I guess I should update my original post to clarify that...


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Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6862] Wed, 01 June 2011 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"If you want all of the chapters in a single book file, you can..."

Is there a limit to the size of the txt file it can display?
Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6863] Wed, 01 June 2011 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doragoon wrote on Wed, 01 June 2011 23:19

"If you want all of the chapters in a single book file, you can..."

Is there a limit to the size of the txt file it can display?


In a way. From what I have gathered on Calibre's documentation, Adobe Digital Editions can't handle chapter files larger than 260 kb in epub. So Calibre by default automatically splits HTML files larger than 260 kb, using as main criteria chapter splits, if it can figure out where they are. Even if you aren't using ADE as a reader, most e-book readers assume chapter files won't be too big, that is, they aren't designed to handle gigantic files.

But note that all those separate HTML chapter files will still be packed inside a single .epub file. And 260 kb (per chapter file) is pretty respectable as text goes. So, I wouldn't be very surprisee if it's possible to fit the entire Britannica (text-only) in a single .epub file. I'm certain it would be possible to fit the entire Tuck Saga in a single .epub file.

But commercially, it might not be the best choice; selling volumes of, say, five or ten chapters apiece would keep the per-volume price low enough not to scare off first-time buyers, and still allow a decent remuneration to Ellen for the full saga. It also wouldn't require Ellen to re-issue the full saga every so often.


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Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6865] Fri, 03 June 2011 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brandonyoung wrote on Tue, 31 May 2011 21:35

I have a Kindle, and I converted the Tuck saga to read it on my Kindle


/me suddenly wishes he were capable of Tuck-like hacking ability and so could snag a copy of that completed ePub.

NOTE: That was NOT a request! Ellen has made her views of such compilations quite clear--fine for personal use but not to be distributed... [sigh...]

I read a bit of epub on my Android phone, and I would love to be able to read Tuck on there too--as well as on the Pandigital Novel eReader\tablet I picked up cheap. Unfortunately as it now stands I cannot read even normal Tuck in the browser on either of them because the text simply will not reflow to fit their screens and I like larger text...

How did you deal with the reflowing of text issue? Or did you manually edit each chapter to make things work?

--iWindoze
Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6866] Fri, 03 June 2011 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iWindoze wrote on Fri, 03 June 2011 11:20

I read a bit of epub on my Android phone, and I would love to be able to read Tuck on there too--as well as on the Pandigital Novel eReader\tablet I picked up cheap. Unfortunately as it now stands I cannot read even normal Tuck in the browser on either of them because the text simply will not reflow to fit their screens and I like larger text...

How did you deal with the reflowing of text issue? Or did you manually edit each chapter to make things work?


I can't help you very much with the Pandigital (I have no idea what kind of software it runs), but you might try CoolReader on your Android phone. It opens TXT files directly, and is smart enough to figure out the paragraph breaks and reflow the text. I read the last Seasons chapter on it with no editing, and it looked fine.

Another possible approach (could even help with the Pandigital) would be to use Calibre to convert the story into epub. I remember seeing an option regarding reflowing text, but I can't remember where it was -- I use Calibre only for converting HTMl files to epub.

Also, I recently did some reviews of epub readers for Android on the Crystal Hall. It might be useful for people here too.


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Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6867] Fri, 03 June 2011 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh sorry, I thought that was clear from the text. The Pandigital Novel/eReader is an Android 2.0 device. Think tablet, and you'll be on the right track.

It was intended to be a cheap eBook reader, but was found to be ludicrously easy to hack out the book application and expose the Android enviroment which allowed it to function as a cheap tablet or poor man's iPad.

--iWindoze

EDIT: damn you autocorrect!

[Updated on: Fri, 03 June 2011 16:02]

Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #6868] Fri, 03 June 2011 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Unfortunately as it now stands I cannot read even normal Tuck in the browser on either of them because the text simply will not reflow to fit their screens and I like larger text...


five step procedure to fix annoying paragraph marks.

step one: find and replace "^p^p" with "$A"
step two: find and replace "^p " with "$B"
step three: find and replace "/p" with " "
step four: find and replace "$B" with "^p "
Step five: find and replace "$A" with "^p^p"

or something like that. All you have to do is mark the paragraph marks you DO want so that you can take away all the ones you don't want and put back the ones you do. it's like five seconds work in word.
Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #7049] Tue, 07 February 2012 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm pretty sure that Ellen would never use this, being a bastion of free software and all, but I think I should mention it anyway...

Apple has a new free-as-in-beer software for creating and editing eBooks, called iBook Creator. It might be pretty neat, except that the license is... well... unprecedently grabby. I'll let Ed Bott and the fine guys at the FSF explain:

https://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/apples-mind-bogglingly-greedy-and-evil-l icense-agreement/4360

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/ibooks-author-restrictions


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Re: ePub for iPad / nook / kindle [message #7050] Thu, 09 February 2012 12:01 Go to previous message
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That reading of Apple's license is Wrong.

This should be a lesson to apple not to let lawyers have too much to do with things, they tend to write licenses that grab everything possible or at least sound as if they could be defended for doing so in court. All Apple intended was that the product that came out of the Apple software be distributed only on iBooks. Not the story itself, but the formatted story produced by Apple's software.

To be clear. Write something. Prepare it for ibooks using Apple's tool. Prepare it for some other market using some other method, just don't use Apple's proprietary format to sell somewhere else.

It is in fact, the same sort of license implied in Amazon's KindleGen software. Apple's version is even a little looser since Apple allows you to create a PDF or other transportable form from the Apple output and give that away. Kindle's license probably doesn't.

So if you write something, use Apple software to prepare it for sale on iBooks, you are still allowed to also sell it somewhere else as long as you don't use Apple's software to format it.

[Updated on: Thu, 09 February 2012 12:13]

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