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#23 up, send money [message #7128] Thu, 19 July 2012 12:00 Go to next message
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#23 up.

Moving house, and we don't have the $$$ to pay the past-due electric and get it turned on at the new place. And the laptop I've been using has gone bad-screen.

Also going bat-shit insane from having to pack, and move, but that was expected.

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Re: #23 up, send money [message #7131] Thu, 19 July 2012 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"...I'll fdisk your brain with a Marx generator."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator =>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEA_laser =>
http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/

"I wonder how much of that stuff The Boyz have made,"
he said innocently.

Thanks for the new chapter.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7133] Thu, 19 July 2012 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GRR I don't see #23.... Not that I'm complaining, and I really wish I had some $ to send Ellen but I'm not that far from broke myself Crying or Very Sad
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7136] Fri, 20 July 2012 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Thu, 19 July 2012 13:00

#23 up.

Moving house, and we don't have the $$$ to pay the past-due electric and get it turned on at the new place. And the laptop I've been using has gone bad-screen.

Also going bat-shit insane from having to pack, and move, but that was expected.

Donation via PayPal is on my website, or you can try donations at barkingduck dot net at the PayPal website.


Ellen


I have to say that I LOVED the name of your PayPal account.


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7137] Fri, 20 July 2012 01:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the fourth refresh it appeared! Thank you Ellen! I'm hoping that your move goes well and you are able to be creative soon. Smile
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7138] Fri, 20 July 2012 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great! New Chapter!

Looks like Dorothy is not what she appears to be:

"Kind of big for an attachment transitional object," Dorothy commented as she put the first box into the trunk.


Kind of reminds me of the Chinese houseboy that spoke pidgeon in front of his employers in Steinbeck's East of Eden, even though he was a university graduate of Berkeley with perfect diction and grasp of English. Very Happy

Re: #23 up, send money [message #7139] Fri, 20 July 2012 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe Dorothy is actually a Psych major who is being very well-paid by Edith's kids to take care of their batty mother -- while writing her Ph.D. on the delusion of living in the past on the side?


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7140] Fri, 20 July 2012 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Lee wrote on Fri, 20 July 2012 18:31

Maybe Dorothy is actually a Psych major who is being very well-paid by Edith's kids to take care of their batty mother -- while writing her Ph.D. on the delusion of living in the past on the side?


In the canon Seasons series (by Tigger, et al.), the later stories had Marie quietly reading psychology books in the kitchen. Maybe there's secret society of Westbury domestics that are taking Psych classes together and plan to write a book... no wait... that's The Help!
Laughing
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7141] Sat, 21 July 2012 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, Westbury society is a large experiment being run by postdoc Psych students undercover as domestics.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7142] Sat, 21 July 2012 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mkemp wrote on Sat, 21 July 2012 11:47

Actually, Westbury society is a large experiment being run by postdoc Psych students undercover as domestics.


Or maybe their intent is to rule the world.

From Steinbeck's East of Eden, the explanation by Lee (a relative of Sir?) the Chinese servant, why he plays his role as he does...(parsed for brevity here)
"...I don't know where being a servant came into disrepute. It is the refuge of a philosopher, the food of the lazy, and, properly carried out, it is a position of power, even of love. I can't understand why more intelligent people don't take it as a career—learn to do it well and reap its benefits...... But a good servant, and I am an excellent one, can completely control his master, tell him what to think, how to act, whom to marry, when to divorce, reduce him to terror as a discipline, or distribute happiness to him, and finally be mentioned in his will. If I had wished I could have robbed, stripped, and beaten anyone I've worked for and come away with thanks. Finally, in my circumstances I am unprotected. My master will defend me, protect me. You have to work and worry. I work less and worry less. And I am a good servant. A bad one does no work and does no worrying, and he still is fed, clothed, and protected. I don't know any profession where the field is so cluttered with incompetents and where excellence is so rare."

Somewhere, sometime, at the central public library of Westbury, in a meeting room, a cheekily named group called The Domestic Book Club has gathered. Marie is sitting with a stenopad nearby as the meeting secretary. In front of fellow members, Dorothy is at the podium and says, "I hereby call our book club to order. First, I'll recite our club statement...Servants of the world unite; you have everything to gain by just knowing how to use your chains..."

Razz
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7144] Sun, 22 July 2012 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

"Edith, may I present Valerie? Valerie, this is Mrs. Edith White, a very old and dear friend of mine."

She looked very old to Tucker, and he recalled something about not waiting for her to get up. "I'm pleased to meet you," he said.

The old woman's face twitched into sourness and he KNEW he'd fucked up, even before Jane started in on him.


Okay, so what's wrong with Val's reply? No curtsey, "I'm pleased" instead of "I'm very pleased," or something else?

On another topic, I wonder if we'll see Val at the bridge tournament. For extra enjoyment, might Tuck's grandmother show up and the two of them get paired off and kick ass? One wonders if something like the bidding convention might be kinda family-specific.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7145] Sun, 22 July 2012 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't see what is wrong with Valerie's behavior here either... I think in a way this may be Val/Tuck's expectation at work. He sees the frown and thinks it is about what he said when it is more about him being 'late' rather than his conversational skills in my opinion.

I get the feeling that Val/Tuck's family is made up of people who are especially serious about money. Not that that is unusual but they are perhaps a bit off sigma in their behavior. Though suspicion of cheating will cause people to behave badly...
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7146] Mon, 23 July 2012 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anne wrote on Sun, 22 July 2012 15:09


I get the feeling that Val/Tuck's family is made up of people who are especially serious about money. Not that that is unusual but they are perhaps a bit off sigma in their behavior. Though suspicion of cheating will cause people to behave badly...


Tuck's family is serious about money, as shown by the various episodes of family discipline being financial, and exceedingly serious about playing various card games for money.

I can see Valerie having extreme problems with bridge partners whose skills are inadequate (not quite to this point, I don't think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Murder_case)
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7147] Mon, 23 July 2012 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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parsing what mkemp wrote on Mon, 23 July 2012 11:30

..I can see Valerie having extreme problems with bridge partners whose skills are inadequate...

We know that Val/Tuck has near eidetic memory when it comes to numbers and card based on the canon Tuck - recall her playing poker with the Pack. He fears being accused of cheating.

New subject...

1. There wasn't much described about the conversation between Reggie/Regina and Jane over why Valerie was there. Reggie's obvious suspicion that Val was there for computer crimes was interesting. What was Reggie's crime that sent him to Jane's? Hacking? I bet it was something mundane as breaking into the school system computer's to change grades for friends. It would be hilarious if Reggie figured out who Valerie was (Val's hacker world nomen that is, if not her real identity), based on Tuck's style of coding, or vice versa, where Val figures out who Reggie really is and threatens to expose Reggie in Hacker universe unless Reggie helps Val on some future quest of Val's.

2. It's Friday tea at Edith White's, Reggie can't come out till Wednesday. This has to be addressed immediately to assess damage and contain the threat - with the firm quietly needing to cover up the issue to avoid loss of client confidence. The surveillance program could be an inside job by any of the IT folks at Melissa's husband's firm. Who ya gonna call (theme music from Ghostbusters plays in background) to fix this? Smile

Looks like Val is going to earn some real coin to use for the charity bridge tournament....
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7148] Tue, 24 July 2012 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lurker wrote on Mon, 23 July 2012 14:21

Looks like Val is going to earn some real coin to use for the charity bridge tournament....



It's my understanding that there's a (probably small) entry fee for such things and the $100 top prize. Bridge isn't like poker.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7149] Thu, 26 July 2012 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe that is how such things work. Of course Tu/Val is worried that (S)he will miss play Her hand and be the victim of violence.

My question though is this: If Val does do the computer thing how will she be paid? If it is a large job the company will want to issue a check... Issuing a check to Valerie Wallace won't work If they issue one to Eugene Wallace that won't work.
If they pay to Tuck's savings account by ETF then the gig is up when Jane (and she will) sees the billing data that says Eugene Wallace Tucker was paid.

[Updated on: Thu, 26 July 2012 00:33]

Re: #23 up, send money [message #7150] Thu, 26 July 2012 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anne wrote on Wed, 25 July 2012 21:32

My question though is this: If Val does do the computer thing how will she be paid? If it is a large job the company will want to issue a check... Issuing a check to Valerie Wallace won't work If they issue one to Eugene Wallace that won't work.
If they pay to Tuck's savings account by ETF then the gig is up when Jane (and she will) sees the billing data that says Eugene Wallace Tucker was paid.


Valerie would be paid through Debbie's company since that is how Val gets paid for babysitting.
I.e. she would have Debbie invoice the company for services by Valerie but check made out to D&E enterprises (Deborah And Elizabeth Personal Services). This way Debbie also takes care of income tax issues.

[Updated on: Thu, 26 July 2012 18:23]

Re: #23 up, send money [message #7152] Thu, 26 July 2012 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That seems doable. Although if Val wants the cash in hand so to speak there will be problems. IDK how long the job will take but figuring 5 computers (an extremely small company) and 3 hours a machine (or even one computer and figuring out how to disable/remove the Trojan) at $50 per hour...

And will Jane let this occur?
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7153] Sun, 29 July 2012 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And if Tuck does use D & E for billing, it will let the gang know whee he is so that they can invade Season House and prevent the disaster like they did in the original as seen in the Tuck Squared
http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book/760/tuck-squared and The Taken http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book/816/taken
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7154] Sun, 29 July 2012 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stanman wrote on Sun, 29 July 2012 16:05

And if Tuck does use D & E for billing, it will let the gang know whee he is so that they can invade Season House and prevent the disaster like they did in the original as seen in the Tuck Squared
http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book/760/tuck-squared and The Taken http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book/816/taken

Uhhh... where to begin?
First: Mike already knows the name of the city. He did mail Tuck the box with stuff, remember. And Tuck wouldn't keep this essential piece of data from Mike anyway. He probably gave Mike the map coordinates and directions to find Season's House to the best of his knowledge.
Second: Debbie billing Edith White's grandson's company would give Debbie very little useful information regarding Tuck's location. We don't even know if that company is located in Rhode Island -- for all we know, it might be in Wall Street itself. And anyway, by the time billing addresses come into play, Tuck will have already finished the job and *will not be there*.
Third: I don't know if you have read the draft version of Tuck Seasons, and Ellen asked us not to circulate it or give out spoilers based on it, but I'll give you this: there was no "invasion" as such.
Fourth: The "disaster" you mention was related to a character we haven't seen yet in the revised Tuck Seasons. We don't know yet if Ellen intends to follow that particular storyline or not. Plenty of stuff in this version have been quite different from that draft. In particular, the character of Evelyn, which did not exist in that draft, hints that if that "disaster" ever comes up, it will play in a very different way -- she's a natural for taking over one of the major roles in that subplot.


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Re: #23 up, send money [message #7155] Sun, 29 July 2012 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Indeed to all of the above. My main question was (and remains) since D and E was paying in cash can they pay by DD (EFT) to Tuck's account? If not then all of this discussion is moot. I recieved government DD funds during (or before) this time frame but in the main Tuck Saga Debbie is paying Tuck in cash.
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7157] Mon, 30 July 2012 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Was hoping to see Debbie and Jane meet as they are both most formidable women
Re: #23 up, send money [message #7161] Mon, 30 July 2012 13:53 Go to previous message
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All in all this would not happen unless Debbie comes to rescue Tu/Val.

All financial dealing can be handled by an EFT. That is if Debbie who IIRC is a bit dense about computers can figure out how to do EFT'S.
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