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The End of Tuck? [message #1907] Sun, 23 May 2004 05:43 Go to next message
Erin Halfelven  is currently offline Erin Halfelven
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My memory may be playing tricks on me but I seem to remember Ellen saying a few years ago that she had intended? planned? considered? ending the Tuck saga at the in-story one year anniversary, that is at Halloween one-year after Tuck first went to the party as the biker chick.

In the story, that's only a few weeks away. Hmmm?

- Erin
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #1909] Sun, 23 May 2004 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, the two relevant quotes I could find in the notes on Ellen's site are here:

Ellen Hayes wrote on 18 January 2003

I feel a little weird - I actually had to write out a timeline about what is going to happen in the next six weeks so that I could keep it all straight in my head. It's been a long time, like maybe never, I've had such a complicated set of situations to juggle around.

The first chapter to come out after this announcement was # 93, which started at 09:25 14 Sep. That would end the timeline Ellen wrote at around Halloween. However, two notes later, still before #93 came out:
Ellen Hayes wrote on 19 February 2003

NO the Tuck series is NOT ending anytime soon (unless I die in a completely unexpected fashion).

We have covered about 3.5 weeks of story in the 15 months since Ellen wrote this, and two years or so would meet my definition of "Not anytime soon." But, the chapters were coming out much more often when Ellen said that, and it seems to be a reaction to the earlier quote that looked like it might hint the story was ending in six weeks. I think Ellen was indicating that Halloween was not the planned endpoint. Who knows how plans have changed in the intervening year plus, however.

Y'know, it would probably be simpler just to ask her directly. Smile
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #1910] Sun, 23 May 2004 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, but that isn't the quote I remember. I think it must have been in some of the stuff that Ellen deleted, I'm just not exactly sure what it was she said. Smile As for asking her, Ellen reads these pages, if she wants to volunteer a clarification, fine but it's more fun to speculate as fans than put the author on a spot. Smile

- Erin
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #1912] Sun, 23 May 2004 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just ask Ellen?!?!?! Am I in a parallel universe??? Ellen has never to my recollection simply come out and said: "Oh, by the way, this what I intend to do." Like any author she has only answered our questions through her work. (Okay, from time-to-time she has given us a "Boy, are you off in leftfield".)

But, Never a straight answer to a question about her planned work.

Re: The End of Tuck? [message #1913] Mon, 24 May 2004 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have writen in my tuck calender that ellen has planned out to october 19th. i'm not sure when or why i put that there... but it's there, so, i believe with all my heart that ellen won't end it until atleast then. 10 more days atleast... averaging 2 days per chapter (almost exactly the average)we'll have atleast 5 more chapters. at the current rate ellen is putting out chapters, we should be good until february... i'm happy... i am confident there will be tuck for some time still.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #1920] Mon, 24 May 2004 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure if Ellen already has the full story arc laid out so our speculation may be moot.
I am wondering if Tuck's self discovery is undergoing the classic five stages: Denial, Anger/Resentment, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. The Denial stage was clearly defined in the April get away after the initial medical tests. It doesn't appear to be past the Bargaining stage....
It's also been only two weeks Tuck time since Mother Tucker's seminar regarding Tuck's follow-up tests with his friends to the current chapter104. Tuck's reluctance to deal with what (s)he wants to do and what that decision will be is going to be a lot longer than 3 weeks. Although Ellen's original intent may have been a one year story arc, I don't see any sudden epiphany by Tuck and any conclusion on Halloween.
The attack on Tuck in Chapters 103/104 may not have been entirely due to the gender issue but seems more to do with suspicions of past pranks/retaliation (Frank - Ellen's rapist, Rob Walsh) or direct confrontations (Tom Lenich, Kyle Dawson) and this was the resultant escalation. This subplot needs to be resolved and may take longer than 3 weeks - Dobson may have a school riot brewing on his hands; or on the outside, a nasty guerrilla war (Ratboyz/Pack vs. Jock/Cheerleaders) starts to take place - with sister's Kim & Linda in the tragic middle.

This saga needs to go greater than three Tuck weeks to conclude well....
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #1943] Tue, 01 June 2004 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cate wrote on Sun, 23 May 2004 20:56

Just ask Ellen?!?!?! Am I in a parallel universe??? Ellen has never to my recollection simply come out and said: "Oh, by the way, this what I intend to do." Like any author she has only answered our questions through her work.

Asking Ellen to clarify something she had already said, or asking if a statement over a year old still applies, are not quite the same thing as asking "What is your overall plan?" To be honest, I agree with Erin- looking up old quotes and speculating is more fun than just asking. Smile
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Mad End of TUCK?
I HOPE NOT Mad Its not finnished yet Very Happy so there has to be lots more! I meen he hasn't come to terms with the brest growth nore to the fact that he looks like a female acts like a female and probably should have been a female! Shocked Confused Surprised Laughing Smug Thumbs Up


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Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7159] Mon, 30 July 2012 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, unless Ellen posts moreTuck, it is over.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7163] Mon, 30 July 2012 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IIRC Ellen has said the main Tuck saga will continue when she is able to do so... One hopes it will be soon. Crying or Very Sad
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7167] Fri, 03 August 2012 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If Tuck chooses to be Valerie, will he have the surgery, or stay as/is? If as/is, could wear a gaffe that tucks everything up and looks realistic/
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7171] Sat, 04 August 2012 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I suspect that Tuck who was raised as a 'boy' will ever give up Tuck willingly. However if Tuck develops 'c' cup breasts then there will be major problems with maintaining Tuck rather than Val.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7182] Tue, 07 August 2012 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just how much does Tuck look like Valerie without any armor or concealment?
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7186] Wed, 08 August 2012 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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According to Bill, too much.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7187] Wed, 08 August 2012 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could Bill design a bodysuit armor that would support Tuck and conceal Val under some chest plate like batman has?
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7194] Thu, 09 August 2012 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why? Have you ever worn a kevlar vest? Trust me on this: Everyone who wears a kevlar vest (unless it is fitted to a female's particular attributes) gains a flat chest.

Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7197] Fri, 10 August 2012 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My idea is a sort of Iron Man bit to give Tuck added dexterity
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7200] Fri, 10 August 2012 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stanman wrote on Fri, 10 August 2012 14:40

My idea is a sort of Iron Man bit to give Tuck added dexterity


As far as I know there is no power armor available except in the earliest experimental stages.

Almost all power packs that could be worn are too large (due to the fact that all actuators are large and require something like either an electric motor on each one or a hydraulic system) to be even remotely useful for any length of time...
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7206] Sat, 11 August 2012 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dont'cha think that Bill could solve those problems?
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7207] Sat, 11 August 2012 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stanman wrote on Sat, 11 August 2012 09:05

Dont'cha think that Bill could solve those problems?


So far as I know they are a function of the laws of physics. So while Bill may be able to address some of them, the main issue is that of weight versus power. Effective power armor would need to be good (able to power itself [carry it's weight and the weight of the power unit) for as long (a school day) as Tuck needed to wear it.

Physics is not my strong suit but power application is an area I've worked on the practical end of...
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7212] Sun, 12 August 2012 04:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Was thinking of a plastic or latex or possibly a still suit from Dune
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7215] Sun, 12 August 2012 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With plastic he would run into the limitations that he noted with it tending to retain body heat. The more of Tuck's body that was covered by the plastic the more heat he would retain.

Still Suits are still beyond our current materials and physics understanding unless there is something of which I'm unaware in the area of synthetic cloth.

I know some stuff like Goretex is somewhat breathable but so far as I know nothing that would work as armor is also breathable.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7218] Sun, 12 August 2012 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about a leotard of spandex with Kevlar and/or gortex panels
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7221] Mon, 13 August 2012 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anne wrote on Sun, 12 August 2012 09:52

With plastic he would run into the limitations that he noted with it tending to retain body heat. The more of Tuck's body that was covered by the plastic the more heat he would retain.

Still Suits are still beyond our current materials and physics understanding unless there is something of which I'm unaware in the area of synthetic cloth.

I know some stuff like Goretex is somewhat breathable but so far as I know nothing that would work as armor is also breathable.


The cooling suits that race car drivers wear (I recall this from an article in Popular Science back in the 60s or 70s are essentially a meshwork of plastic tubing with a pump and a cooling unit. A "fanny pack" sized unit has the pump, batteries *and* enough ice to keep the wearer ok for a significant period in a steam room (the PS reporter tried that as a test).

Something like that under the "armor" would be workable.

It'd add weight, but compared with the armor, not a lot.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7222] Mon, 13 August 2012 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DX against blunt force trauma is the point. Being incognito about it seems to be the point too, though IDK how that will work since Tuck wants the Roo pouch for the Lappy.

If Tuck starts wearing obvious armor (people will notice) then when he no longer has the appearance of being injured it may again make him a target. Though at that point maybe the Knights will be an actual force to recon with.
Re: The End of Tuck? [message #7226] Tue, 14 August 2012 01:34 Go to previous message
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Say Tuck can wear armor that does not look like armor: what of the goons ho would attack him? Does the school have video surveillance?
If not, Can Tuck not wear some sort of spy gear to record any attack and wear a panic button to alert Bill and company?
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