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Heinlein [message #5231] Sat, 07 July 2007 04:13 Go to next message
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Today, July 7th, would have been Heinlein's 100th birthday. So celebrate by reading one of his books!

(I'm not 100% sure this is the right subforum to post this in, but I am certain it's worth mentioning somewhere in here. Very Happy )
Re: Heinlein [message #5232] Sat, 07 July 2007 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of the larger problems with reading Heinlein is that it's hard to only read one, especially the earlier juveniles.
Re: Heinlein [message #7120] Sat, 07 July 2012 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TANSTAAFL!
That is what the grand master would say!
Re: Heinlein [message #7121] Sun, 08 July 2012 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Sat, 07 July 2007 05:13

Today, July 7th, would have been Heinlein's 100th birthday. So celebrate by reading one of his books!

(I'm not 100% sure this is the right subforum to post this in, but I am certain it's worth mentioning somewhere in here. Very Happy )


Actually, Wikipedia reports he was born in 1907; therefore, it would have been his 105th birthday. But that's not important. Let's celebrate the writer, not the centenary.


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
Re: Heinlein [message #7156] Mon, 30 July 2012 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why not watch a movie based upon a Heinlein novel?
Re: Heinlein [message #7160] Mon, 30 July 2012 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it was as bad as Starship Troopers ICK!
Re: Heinlein [message #7165] Wed, 01 August 2012 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Lee wrote on Sat, 07 July 2012 21:32

Actually, Wikipedia reports he was born in 1907; therefore, it would have been his 105th birthday. But that's not important. Let's celebrate the writer, not the centenary.


Post you were responding to was written in 2007 heh
Re: Heinlein [message #7166] Wed, 01 August 2012 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Realmfighter wrote on Wed, 01 August 2012 07:14

Post you were responding to was written in 2007 heh

Anne got me; she added a comment *exactly* five years since the original message. I notice the day and month but not the year...


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
Re: Heinlein [message #7172] Sat, 04 August 2012 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not that I was trying to. I just noticed the date and thought that restarting the thread would be interesting. Laughing
Re: Heinlein [message #7173] Sun, 05 August 2012 02:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://non.com/books/Heinlein_Robert_cc.html http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0374423/
Re: Heinlein [message #7201] Fri, 10 August 2012 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Confused Maybe I'm dense but why go to these when there's Amazon?
Re: Heinlein [message #7375] Tue, 23 October 2012 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stanman wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 01:01

http://non.com/books/Heinlein_Robert_cc.html http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0374423/


Awww mannnnn! They made an episode out of "Green Hills of Earth" in the '50s and there doesn't seem to be any way to get my hands on the anthology series that they did it in!

I've never understood the reason why no one ever made a couple of miniseries based on the Heinlein works, especially his Future History series which if you allowed it to combine with the Lazarus Long series (as the Methuselah's Children novella does) you could create a sense of continuity throughout the show.

If I had to guess I'd say it was political....lots of people buy into the Verhoeven spin on RAH's values and political beliefs instead of simply accepting it to be impossible to separate the beliefs of the author and his characters. And he had so many many characters with disparate and even conflicting belief systems, so who can say which political system the Master truly subscribed to?
Re: Heinlein [message #7378] Sat, 27 October 2012 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd love to see a series based upon the stainless steel rat. Those novels were wild.
Re: Heinlein [message #7380] Sun, 28 October 2012 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iWindoze wrote on Tue, 23 October 2012 14:20

stanman wrote on Sun, 05 August 2012 01:01

http://non.com/books/Heinlein_Robert_cc.html http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0374423/


Awww mannnnn! They made an episode out of "Green Hills of Earth" in the '50s and there doesn't seem to be any way to get my hands on the anthology series that they did it in!





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Re: Heinlein [message #7382] Tue, 30 October 2012 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THANK YOU!

I had no idea this was a radio play series but I don't much care, I'm still interested. Hmmm...I wonder if I can find a coupon or something to get those free some how...I seem to remember one of my podcasts saying something about free eBook when you join Aubible for the first time and I know I've never joined them in the past...
Re: Heinlein [message #7466] Fri, 22 February 2013 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stanman wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 17:53

Why not watch a movie based upon a Heinlein novel?

Dude, don't be a wuss. Read something!

(this applies for everyone, all the time. Stop feeding Hollywood!)


Ellen
Re: Heinlein [message #7470] Sat, 23 February 2013 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Absolutely time to stop feeding Hollywood. Ye gads even when they portray us they get it wrong.
Re: Heinlein [message #7472] Mon, 25 February 2013 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Fri, 22 February 2013 15:48

stanman wrote on Mon, 30 July 2012 17:53

Why not watch a movie based upon a Heinlein novel?

Dude, don't be a wuss. Read something!

(this applies for everyone, all the time. Stop feeding Hollywood!)


Ellen



Besides, with e-books you can carry around a library far larger than your shelves can handle. And have much of your collection available at a whim.

Being able to look up quotes without digging thru several books is handy too.
Re: Heinlein [message #7473] Mon, 25 February 2013 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I read a lot of books, both paperback and electronic.
Re: Heinlein [message #7489] Fri, 01 March 2013 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brooke wrote on Mon, 25 February 2013 10:18

Besides, with e-books you can carry around a library far larger than your shelves can handle. And have much of your collection available at a whim.


Yeah, but I drop ONE book in the toilet, I don't lose my entire library.
Also, paper never runs out of battery. And I can drop it without having heart problems.
Yes, dropping figures into my thinking a lot... but it happens. College friend and almost-roommate (lucky escape for him!) lost a pair of glasses into a toilet at the dorm, IIRC; just bent over to flush the Eljer and away they went...
I'd really REALLY hate to lose a $100 reader, and I'd hate a lot more to lose my entire library until I could get a replacement. And THAT'S assuming I bought all my books online, and they allowed free 'replacement' downloads into a new unit, which they might not.

Both (e- and paper-) is best, but if I had to pick one, I'd pick paper.

Ellen
I had to pick one, I'd pick paper. [message #7518] Fri, 08 March 2013 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, fine for you Missy, but then I'd have to have printed out all 142 episodes and read them with a flashlight under the covers instead of on my iPad, at night, in the dark, on the toilet,(some of my best reading is done there it seems).

Come to think of it though, as a kid I think I read most of the Heinleins under the covers with my flashlight, so it's doable.

Valcyte

P.S. They do allow replacement downloads and variably allow up to 10 devices or more depending on the seller, I have 8 Kindle readers/devices registered on Amazon, all sharing content.
Re: I had to pick one, I'd pick paper. [message #7520] Fri, 08 March 2013 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They allow replacements until they don't.

Remember that they pulled 1984 and Animal Farm from the Kindles DIRECTLY (17 July 2009), which always makes my hair stand up when I think about it.

Policies change, and can change without (visible to me) warning or hints beforehand. And even if I have warning, there's fuckall (legally) I can do about it. I don't want my library et al to be vulnerable to, say, a Sony decision to buy Amazon and gut it.

Actually, the e-vs-paper thing changes a bit when looking at Tuck; I have literally no control over it once you download it/get it served via webserver; and especially no ability (nor desire) to enforce some kind of limitation on copies/clones/what-have-you. Not the case with them fancy ebookreaders.

Valcyte: at least you'd be legally allowed to print 'em! *raspberry*


Ellen
Re: I had to pick one, I'd pick paper. [message #7528] Sun, 10 March 2013 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Redundant-User Error

Valcyte

[Updated on: Mon, 11 March 2013 08:43]

Re: I had to pick one, I'd pick paper. [message #7529] Sun, 10 March 2013 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OMG
Trumped in my first forum post by crossing swords with, .....The Ellen!

Actually I did not know that, and in addition to the historical facts, there is the reality of who really owns the content, or the distribution rights, and who rights the rules, (sic). I'm no lawyer but it's clearly not a material possession or Real Estate. So thanks for restoring my natural suspicion that the world is out to get me if I don't maintain constant vigilance. TASBEM, Thanks P.T.Barnum, David Hannum et al, the paranoids creed, and Murphy and Kin. I am truly grateful for the reality jerk.

When Worlds Collide
The truth is that I am I both worlds. All my Heinlein is on paper, save only Tunnel in the Sky, which I could only find in an online set. Sorry, I was in a lather to read it after reading Hunger Games for source/intelectual property comparison purposes.

Luck of the Amish
In my safe in addition to my ammo I have what I consider essential reading for survival. Cheap insurance. No, it is not The Whole Earth Manual, which was predicated on the assumption that there was an existing civilized structure to sell and ship you that stuff. I have sequestered practical reading to reeducate me on all the stuff the average Amish person would know.

Screaming Trees
As for your last comment, apunto, right again. I went online tonight to finish one of the Aunt Jane's and the Big Closet site is down. Next time I wanna read something, I am printing it to paper, all 142 chapters if necessary.

*already contributed this week-Right back atcha*

Valcyte

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Re: I had to pick one, I'd pick paper. [message #7530] Sun, 10 March 2013 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My essential reading of this sort includes (but in no way is limited to...) the first couple of Foxfire books...
Re: Heinlein [message #7538] Mon, 11 March 2013 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Fri, 01 March 2013 15:48

Brooke wrote on Mon, 25 February 2013 10:18

Besides, with e-books you can carry around a library far larger than your shelves can handle. And have much of your collection available at a whim.


Yeah, but I drop ONE book in the toilet, I don't lose my entire library.
Also, paper never runs out of battery. And I can drop it without having heart problems.
Yes, dropping figures into my thinking a lot... but it happens. College friend and almost-roommate (lucky escape for him!) lost a pair of glasses into a toilet at the dorm, IIRC; just bent over to flush the Eljer and away they went...
I'd really REALLY hate to lose a $100 reader, and I'd hate a lot more to lose my entire library until I could get a replacement. And THAT'S assuming I bought all my books online, and they allowed free 'replacement' downloads into a new unit, which they might not.

Both (e- and paper-) is best, but if I had to pick one, I'd pick paper.

Ellen



Well, I stick to formats that are *not* DRMed. So I can back them up and read them on all sorts of things. My current "most used" reader is an old Nokia 770 table. Reading various things (mostly Baen stuff) that's in HTML format.

The books are on a mini-MMC so even if the tablet got trashed, I can just eject the card and stick it in something else.

Last time I looked, I could get a replacement tablet on ebay pretty cheap. Not in the budget currently (I need to replace a 2 TB drive that had Windoze glitch on it (drive is ok, but root directory info is messed up. I'm told that with the right software I can restore it to another drive. Or at least most of it.)

Re: Heinlein [message #7578] Tue, 12 March 2013 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brooke, eBay is chancy and I often don't have $100 to drop.

I'm honestly not pissing on ebooks; but I see them as more of a luxury/convenience compared to paperbooks. If I really want to keep something for the rest of my life, or have it portable (in the sense of not being tethered to something expensive and fragile), I get paperbook.

Ellen
Re: Heinlein [message #7655] Sun, 17 March 2013 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I've got two factors you don't.

First, my sleep apnea is bad enough that if I don't have electricity, in a relatively short time (week or two) I'll be pretty much useless to myself and others.

Also, I live in an apartment. And that means that most of my books are in storage (picture a stack of boxes 10 feet long, 6 feet tall and 3 feet wide)

Re: Heinlein [message #7692] Tue, 19 March 2013 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had, before the last move, about 180 linear feet of paperbacks, and well over 90 linear feet of letter-sized books (mostly roleplaying games). Plus boxes. Plus comics (why?).

On the ebook front, a lovely program called Calibre will convert many formats into many formats. So you might be able to downgrade those EPUBs into the stupid (as in, taking no processing power) and easily read HTML or, just for me, TXT. And it's free, and it's in Linux as well as Windows and Mac. Works handily.


Ellen
Re: Heinlein [message #7702] Wed, 20 March 2013 19:07 Go to previous message
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I will buy a paperback version of any book by an author over the e-book. Can't loose the story if you lose power
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