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What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #763] Sat, 18 January 2003 23:36 Go to next message
JoEllen Lynn  is currently offline JoEllen Lynn
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I don't recall seeing much about this, either in the story or in the discussion group. Yes, Tuck's a good mimic, and put on a New York accent for his first few Valerie outings. But most boys his age are suffering through their voice changes. Although Ellen never mentioned anything about it, I think Tuck's voice has not and may never change.

So then, is it a sexy voice? Squeaky? Breathy? Androgenous? High? Low? Does Tuck sound like a teenage boy whose voice hasn't changed yet, that "threatening to go low" sound? Or does he sound like a teenage girl, "high and staying there?" And what does Valerie's singing voice sound like?

Just idly speculating.
Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #765] Sun, 19 January 2003 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JoEllen Lynn wrote on Sun, 19 January 2003 04:36

I don't recall seeing much about this, either in the story or in the discussion group. Yes, Tuck's a good mimic, and put on a New York accent for his first few Valerie outings. But most boys his age are suffering through their voice changes. Although Ellen never mentioned anything about it, I think Tuck's voice has not and may never change.

So then, is it a sexy voice? Squeaky? Breathy? Androgenous? High? Low? Does Tuck sound like a teenage boy whose voice hasn't changed yet, that "threatening to go low" sound? Or does he sound like a teenage girl, "high and staying there?" And what does Valerie's singing voice sound like?

Just idly speculating.


We know it hasn't broken. I'd guess without medical intervention (androgen medication - ie: testosterone) it's probably not going to, as he's not getting any other masculinising effects from his own adolescence. Quite the opposite.

Valerie from Tucky Seasons has a nice contralto singing voice which takes well to training. A contralto does not sound like a boy treble. My sister sings contralto... She also on several occasions emulates the accent of a "British princess". Back to the main story, Tuck's singing is untrained, but he's still complimented on it, with Travis saying, for instance, that he sounds like the lead singer from the B52s (whose name I forget).

Women's voices change too during puberty, although they don't go through a specific "break". I'd hazard that Tuck's developing a normal adult female voice, although when not in Valerie-mode his inflections are probably not feminine - or are they? That's more information than we're given directly, but Tuck *does* keep getting read as female and that's probably from a combination of factors...

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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #770] Fri, 31 January 2003 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rachel.greenham wrote on Sun, 19 January 2003 03:49 [QUOTE

I'd hazard that Tuck's developing a normal adult female voice, although when not in Valerie-mode his inflections are probably not feminine - or are they? That's more information than we're given directly, but Tuck *does* keep getting read as female and that's probably from a combination of factors...
We know it hasn't broken. I'd guess without medical intervention (androgen medication - ie: testosterone) it's probably not going to, as he's not getting any other masculinising effects from his own adolescence. Quite the opposite..


I agree that Eugene is finding it harder and harder to pass as male due to physical and vocal attributes as well as mannerism's and reactions to his enviroment around him. As Ellen says: if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck. . it is definately a duck.


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1924] Tue, 25 May 2004 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know this is probably an old thread, but had to put in my 5 cents worth. You can manipulate the hormones in your body without drugs. Not a problem TuVal has, but one i abused. During puberty, i gained a lot of weight. i mean A LOT of weight. The more fat in your body, i learned and built on, the more estrogen is in the system. My voice is mid-crack, not deep, but not distinctly feminine either. Mebbe TuVal has the same range.


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1925] Tue, 25 May 2004 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jamie wrote on Tue, 25 May 2004 11:18

I know this is probably an old thread, but had to put in my 5 cents worth. You can manipulate the hormones in your body without drugs. Not a problem TuVal has, but one i abused. During puberty, i gained a lot of weight. i mean A LOT of weight. The more fat in your body, i learned and built on, the more estrogen is in the system. My voice is mid-crack, not deep, but not distinctly feminine either. Mebbe TuVal has the same range.


Valarie's voice never cracked. . .she is going through a normal female puberty as she has nothing in her body to cause masculinization. She has no testes and never did. SO she will be in the normal female range with no effort.


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1926] Tue, 25 May 2004 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was just saying, is all. Guess i have to take this as a reminder not to say too much about myself from now on.


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1927] Tue, 25 May 2004 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jamie wrote on Tue, 25 May 2004 14:01

I was just saying, is all. Guess i have to take this as a reminder not to say too much about myself from now on.


please do not refrain from posting. . . your opinions and thoughs as well as life experiences can give invaluable insights to others but only if you post your thoughts and ideas. . .


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1934] Thu, 27 May 2004 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Geez, didn't mean to offend. ^^; OK, will stay open in mind and expression (shrink says i gotta work on that) and maybe (if possible) add to the collective knowledge pool this forum represents. Flowery Language Optional, of course. ^_^


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1935] Thu, 27 May 2004 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jamie wrote on Thu, 27 May 2004 10:28

Geez, didn't mean to offend. ^^; OK, will stay open in mind and expression (shrink says i gotta work on that) and maybe (if possible) add to the collective knowledge pool this forum represents. Flowery Language Optional, of course. ^_^


kewl and welcome to the forum. . . . keep those thoughts and ideas flowing, as your insight and thoughs are most welcome Very Happy


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1937] Fri, 28 May 2004 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I kno wit was mentioned earlier on here that Travis said Val sounded like the lead singer from the B-52's but you couldn't remember her name. I'm just going through my latest re-read Very Happy , and just got to that part her name is Kate Pierson.



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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1938] Fri, 28 May 2004 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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KellyDahl wrote on Fri, 28 May 2004 11:49

I kno wit was mentioned earlier on here that Travis said Val sounded like the lead singer from the B-52's but you couldn't remember her name. I'm just going through my latest re-read Very Happy , and just got to that part her name is Kate Pierson.



In this world it is sane to be insane.
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That would be so cool to see Valarie use her vocal talents with a band. . maybe we will see that before the final chapter (well one can hope)


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1940] Sun, 30 May 2004 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe that Jack really would have liked Val to sing in Stepwise Pagoda. Maybe that will happen.

I just wonder if Jack will find out about what has happen to Tuck/Val.
Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #1941] Sun, 30 May 2004 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maynard wrote on Sun, 30 May 2004 17:55

I believe that Jack really would have liked Val to sing in Stepwise Pagoda. Maybe that will happen.

I just wonder if Jack will find out about what has happen to Tuck/Val.


Jack would be very understanding, he was always supportive and non judgmental. . . and I am sure if he isn't told he will hear it through the rumor mill.. . and I think of anyone he would be very much want to see her use her vocal talents with the bands.


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Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #7452] Wed, 30 January 2013 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some how I get the feeling that Jack might get very upset if he knew the true extent of what happened to Val, or even Tuck for that matter. Especially since Tuck and Val are the same person!

However that doesn't address Tuck's voice. This like Tuck's face and body is just one more thing saying I'm a woman. Tuck goes very butch and plays with the boys and even dates girls. But to be honest I think that it would not take much for Val to be the dominant personality. (and no I am not saying that Tuck has a split personality... But others may disagree!)
Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #7453] Thu, 31 January 2013 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maynard wrote on Sun, 30 May 2004 15:55

I believe that Jack really would have liked Val to sing in Stepwise Pagoda. Maybe that will happen.

I just wonder if Jack will find out about what has happen to Tuck/Val.


Look here http://tuckerspawn.fictioneer.org/index.php?t=msg&th=202&start=0 &S=4ba72ae5fb995cf2a6110e3316e10202
for a fanfic about that.
Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #7459] Mon, 11 February 2013 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The voice of Tuck/Val is more than likely in the alto range.
Re: What is the sound of Tuck's voice? [message #7463] Fri, 22 February 2013 18:36 Go to previous message
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Since everything in Tucky Seasons is sort of congruent with everything in the main storyline - barring changes(1) - then you can take it as Fact (woo woo!) that Tucker has the vocal range mentioned there.

To wit:
Quote:


a low D and moving up about three and a half octaves to an A flat.


from #16.


Note 1: which really doesn't nail anything down, does it?


Ellen
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