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Vehicles [message #8211] |
Tue, 27 August 2013 21:37  |
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Sir Lee Messages: 440 Registered: October 2003 Location: São Paulo, Brazil |
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A couple weeks ago I spent some time on the Misfile wiki (you know, my mental image of Tuck sorta resembles Ash in that cute androgynous way...), where cars are, well, important. Anyway, I was rereading a few old chapters and it came to me that I don't have a really good idea of what most of the Tuck cast is driving...
We do know quite a lot about the Seasons cast cars (Ellen even posted pictures), in particular Evelyn's customized Plymouth Roadrunner. We also know that Art drives a Camry and Darryl/Darla has a BMW convertible. I don't remember what Ken and Jane drive, but it's probably there somewhere.
Going into mainstream, this is what I remember and/or could easily find:
- Travis has a Suburban (which Tu-Val misidentifies all the time)
- Debbie has a Subaru pre-Legacy wagon
- Lisa has some sort of rich kid car, like a BMW, but I can't recall the marque, much less the model
- Tuck has a Toyota, which used to belong to Debbie. After the school parking incident it was repainted green, but from the way it was mentioned I don't think it was originally that color. Manual-shift gearbox, which took a while for Tuck to master.
- Both Dan and Pam borrow their respective mom's minivans on occasion (well, Pam *used* to do that), but I don't remember any specific model being mentioned.
- Kathy has an Eagle Talon. Since she is one of the few in both gangs who can drive a stick shift, I suppose it is likely to have come with the 5-speed manual gearbox. Being a teenager's car in 1997, it's unlikely to be the second-generation Talon, which was at most two years old at the time. So, a first-generation one.
- Jill finally got her Yamaha Seca II 600cc, which we discussed a few weeks ago.
- Mike has Stupid, which appears to be some sort of oldish, largish sedan (from a couple hints given in the deprecated Seasons draft) in very bad shape. Something like a Ford Taurus or a Chevrolet Caprice.
- Kim has a car (she used to give lifts to Jill) but I don't remember a model being mentioned.
And... that's pretty much all that I could remember. Anybody has anything to add?
Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
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Re: Vehicles [message #8239] |
Sat, 07 September 2013 11:39   |
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Sir Lee Messages: 440 Registered: October 2003 Location: São Paulo, Brazil |
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Sat, 07 September 2013 08:41 | I have always thought of Stupid (Mike's car) as being something from the 70s, before the oil crisis really shrank everything. Easy to work on, ugly as sin, and really horrible mileage.
I think I had one picked out, possibly more than once, but, um, I lost the information.
| Perhaps, ah, a 1974 Dodge Monaco?
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Re: Vehicles [message #8247] |
Sun, 08 September 2013 10:07   |
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Sir Lee Messages: 440 Registered: October 2003 Location: São Paulo, Brazil |
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Sun, 08 September 2013 08:51 | That'd work, as long as it had four doors.
Of course, if it WAS a 1974, Mike would have to add "...a cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant [and] ... cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas." And repaint it.
Apparently they 1977-78 models were very durable; those might be better, though you wouldn't want that paint scheme.
Ellen, who just luuuvvvvvvs hot pursuit
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Well, the reason I mentioned that particular model was something that Mike once said (but is not saying anymore, since that story has been deprecated), which was suspiciously similar to the Blues Brothers quote above...
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Re: Vehicles [message #8248] |
Sun, 08 September 2013 10:43   |
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Sir Lee Messages: 440 Registered: October 2003 Location: São Paulo, Brazil |
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Amy! wrote on Sun, 08 September 2013 10:48 | It always intrigued me that the engine size (in cubic inches) pretty much identified the make of an automobile. Are there any sizes that two different manufacturers made?
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Took me some digging, but yes. Both GM and Chrysler had engines listed as a "350", for instance. But that does seem to be uncommon.
The fact of it is that the engine actual displacement often does not quite match the advertised model number. There's always some margin for fudging -- at the very least, if the actual displacement is fractional (as it usually is), there's the choice of rounding down or rounding up. And then, small improvements in the engine from one year to the next might change the displacement slightly, but the engine will keep being advertised by the same number.
It's even possible that marketing chooses a particular number to advertise for branding reasons; for instance, I notice that Chrysler had three entirely different engines all sold as "426s." Could it be that Chrysler chose to market the newer ones as 426 (instead of 425 or 427) to capitalize on brand awareness of the older one? It's possible. As you pointed out, particular cubic-inch engine displacements are heavily associated with one automaker; it's almost like a secondary brand.
Over in the metric world, it's customary to round displacement numbers to the nearest two significant figures, so you will see a lot of, say, 1.8 litre engines -- which have all slightly different displacements. So those are not associated with a particular maker.
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Re: Vehicles [message #8298] |
Sun, 15 September 2013 21:25  |
Mvusse Messages: 4 Registered: August 2013 Location: United States |
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Both AMC and Chrysler (before Chrysler bought AMC) made a 360, both Ford and GM made a 302 as well as a 400. AMC and GM both made a 327, the list goes on.
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