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The Name Game [message #1803] Tue, 27 April 2004 13:27 Go to next message
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Just to try and generate a little discussion while we wait for the next chapter of either story...
Anybody have any particular puns they want to see used as episode titles?
I keep expecting to see Lunatuck Fringe or some variant on that show up before too long. I'm pretty sure that joke has showed up in discussion before, either here or on Ellen's guestbook.
The other one I really want to see, even though I have no idea what sort of episode it would fit at a title to, is "Discretion Is The Better Part of Valerie."
Re: The Name Game [message #1804] Thu, 29 April 2004 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 27 April 2004 12:27

Just to try and generate a little discussion while we wait for the next chapter of either story...
Anybody have any particular puns they want to see used as episode titles?
I keep expecting to see Lunatuck Fringe or some variant on that show up before too long. I'm pretty sure that joke has showed up in discussion before, either here or on Ellen's guestbook.
The other one I really want to see, even though I have no idea what sort of episode it would fit at a title to, is "Discretion Is The Better Part of Valerie."


Let me see. . . some possible and implausable chapter titles

  1. tuckered out
  2. tucker pawn
  3. euginics
  4. valistic response


hmmm anyone composed a list of all the chapter names so far ?


Doubt is a thief that often makes us fear to tread where we might have won --Shakespeare" --

-Vicki
Re: The Name Game [message #1807] Thu, 29 April 2004 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vicki wrote on Thu, 29 April 2004 13:50

Let me see. . . some possible and implausable chapter titles

  1. tuckered out
  2. tucker pawn
  3. euginics
  4. valistic response


hmmm anyone composed a list of all the chapter names so far ?


Ellen did Very Happy There's a list right at her site...
By the way, "Tuckered Out" is the name of Chapter 2.

Just a comment. So far, Ellen has s'Tuck (groan) to the following pattern for chapter names:
- Chapters narrated by Tuck have a pun-nish name around the word "Tuck."
- Chapters with a third-person narrative (28,29,43 so far) have titles containing no puns.

That is, the puns are only related to the name of the first-person narrator.

Puns around "Valerie" might be significant. It might be a hint that Tuck stopped thinking about himself as "Eugene" and began thinking of herself as "Valerie."

Sir Lee


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Re: The Name Game [message #1808] Fri, 30 April 2004 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Lee wrote on Fri, 30 April 2004 01:54

Puns around "Valerie" might be significant. It might be a hint that Tuck stopped thinking about himself as "Eugene" and began thinking of herself as "Valerie."

Sir Lee


Um. Kinda tried that already (during my own title-search), always seemed more of a stretch than the "tuck" ones, as you can't really pun on the *whole* name, only the abbreviation (although the same applies to tuck*er* I guess)


    valid (or invalid - and words stemming)
    valerian (herb with relaxing properties)
    valerate (hehe - but she don't seem to need none)
    value (etc...)
    valediction
    valley girl (valley of the dolls)
    vale of tears
    valour (or valor for you yanks Razz)
    evaluate
    val-eerie
    the grace of the valar (Tolkein ref)


BTW someone already pointed out, I think, that the *other* chapters, the 3rd-person ones, are the titles of Pink Floyd songs.

There's an alarmingly rich seam yet to be mined there... (Comfortably Numb, Mother, oh hell, just look at the track listings... <fear/>)

Disclaimer: /me not a floyd fan. Was when tuck's age. Alienation of course. Smile


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Re: The Name Game [message #1813] Fri, 30 April 2004 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My vote would be for "Time to quit tucking around".
Re: The Name Game [message #1816] Fri, 30 April 2004 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about:

"Tuck You Long Enough"
- During recovery, Tuck finally confesses to everything and admits that being female is more comfortable and more fun.

"Cross Country Tucker"
- Tuck gets sent to stay with Uncle in Louisiana or Aunt in New York.

"Stop Tucking Sense"
- Tuck comes to in a fugue state, lucid but babbling about everything and unable to not answer direct questions.

"Just Tuckin' Marvelous!"
- Tuck's friends told Bill and Sarah everything!

"Not Gonna Tuck It Anymore"
- The rumor is, Tuck died. But there's a new girl in school and she's got a few scores to settle.

"You Tuck, Me Jill"
- After seeing Tuck nearly killed, Jill confesses that she loves Tuck. Hilarity ensues.

"Don't Tuck Around"
- Mike and the RatBoyz don't go far enough so the Pack takes it's revenge on Tuck's attackers.

"Tuck-Tone Tag Team"
- Phone games while Tuck recovers.

Smile
- Erin
Re: The Name Game [message #1817] Tue, 04 May 2004 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Erin Halfelven wrote on Fri, 30 April 2004 17:17

How about:

"Not Gonna Tuck It Anymore"
- The rumor is, Tuck died. But there's a new girl in school and she's got a few scores to settle.

I don't see this premise working in the main storyline- I can't imagine how the deception could be maintined long enough. But it sounds like a hell of a fun idea for a fanfic. (Not one that I feel capable of writing, unfortunatly.)
Re: The Name Game [message #1818] Tue, 04 May 2004 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Un-Tucked


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Re: The Name Game [message #1819] Tue, 04 May 2004 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh I think Tuck could do it if motivated enough. Blonde hair, very girly fashions and a Noo Yawk accent. Smile Fuhgeddabowdit! LOL.

Wish I had time to write such a fanfic. Sad

- Erin
Re: The Name Game [message #1822] Wed, 05 May 2004 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Tucking Time" - For "it's about ?ucking time for a new chapter" because I feel totally crap for not seeing a new normal tucker (not that season thing, I wait with reading that until the rewrite has progressed a couple more chapters). I keep praying and hoping each time I visit the tucker website (and I do that multiple times a day) to see a new version or at least some new information from Ellen.

Has anybody (who has been reading tucker longer then I have) ever experienced that it took Ellen so long to come up with a new chapter, it's been almost 4 months now.

When the latest chapter comes I think if will do a little celibration dance in the living room, then drop everything what I am doing at that moment, settle my ass in the chair with a mug of coffee and choclate, start with rereading #103 (maybe even the #102 to get into the mood) ... and then slowly read the so long awaited #104.
Re: The Name Game [message #1823] Wed, 05 May 2004 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Natalie wrote on Wed, 05 May 2004 14:10

Has anybody (who has been reading tucker longer then I have) ever experienced that it took Ellen so long to come up with a new chapter, it's been almost 4 months now.

I've only been reading about a year, but if the date stamps on the the files in the zip version of the story are good guidelines- and they appear to be after episode 39- there was 5 1/2 months between episodes 40 and 41. So, this may not be quite the worst wait, yet. (I know what you mean about checking several times a day, though.)

Re: The Name Game [message #1824] Wed, 05 May 2004 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has anybody ever experienced that it took Ellen so long to come up with a new chapter, it's been almost 4 months now.


I've been keeping track of when episodes have gone into proofing since chapter 75. i'll just copy/paste my notes here and let you figure it out. i like keeping track of when they went into proofing rather than when they were published becouse sometimes they stay in proofing, waiting to be published for when ellen has built up a couple or whatever reason she feels like holding out on us.

episode104: written march 5
episode103: written dec 7
episode102: written nov 23
episode101: written oct 6
episode100: written aug 10
episode 99: written june 22
episode 98: written may 25
episode 97: written may 10
episode 96: written april 7
episode 95: written march 30
episode 94: written jan 2
episode 93: written dec 11
episode 92: written oct 25
episode 91: written sept 27
episode 90: written sept 6
episode 89: written july 20
episode 88: written july 16
episode 87: ---july 4th?? maybe
episode 86: written march 29 (two weeks ahead)
episode 85: written march 22nd
episode 84: written march 19
episode 83: written march 9 (8 in reserve)
episode 82: written feb 19
episode 81: written feb 11 (8 in reserve)
episode 80: written jan 30
episode 79: written jan 21
episode 78: written jan 12
episode 77: written jan 8
episode 76: written Dec 19
episode 75: written dec 16th

so, try figureing out which one of those was longest.

*sigh* i miss the days when she had 8 episodes in proofing at a time and was coming out with a new chapter every other week...
Re: The Name Game [message #1825] Thu, 06 May 2004 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow I see what you mean the #74 till #89 must have been a very nice period which a new one each week. I didn't witness that period since I have only been reading Tucker since mid 2003.
But as stated by OtherEric, this isn't her record waiting time *yet*, but she is getting there Confused

Please Ellen, it's been in proofing for weeks now .... please please take a night and finish up to feed us at least something to keep us of your back for the next couple of months.

*snif*snif*

But to stay in line of this thread :
"Drop the Tuck" : For dropping the bomb of finally annoucing a new episode Very Happy
Re: The Name Game [message #1826] Thu, 06 May 2004 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Natalie wrote on Thu, 06 May 2004 20:58

Wow I see what you mean the #74 till #89 must have been a very nice period which a new one each week. I didn't witness that period since I have only been reading Tucker since mid 2003.
But as stated by OtherEric, this isn't her record waiting time *yet*, but she is getting there Confused

Please Ellen, it's been in proofing for weeks now .... please please take a night and finish up to feed us at least something to keep us of your back for the next couple of months.

*snif*snif*


"Shtop! Thish episode ish not ready yet!"

(Do you have those ads in America? Smile )

Patience, people. It will be ready when it is ready. From what she's said, and from what was happening in the story the last time there was such a long gap, I think we can assume Ellen's digging deep at the moment. Let it come when it will come.

And yes, I check more than once a day too!


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Re: The Name Game [message #1830] Wed, 12 May 2004 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's coming. Soon.


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Re: The Name Game [message #1832] Wed, 12 May 2004 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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YAY! Smile

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Re: The Name Game [message #1957] Wed, 09 June 2004 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tuck it to Them Gently
Re: The Name Game [message #1961] Thu, 10 June 2004 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unsportsmanlike Contuck
Who Tucks Wins
One Tuck or Another
Where There's a Bill There's a Tuck
Go Tell the Tuckers
The Short Victorious Tuck
Re: The Name Game [message #1967] Sat, 12 June 2004 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Death Ground, Tuck
The Art of Tuck
The Little Tucker Girl
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Tuck
Tucker's People
Tucker's Game
Tucker's Shadow
Speaker for the Tuck
The Honor of the Tuck
Tucker Aong Enemies
Young Tucker Plays It Safe
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It's easy to come up with chapter titles. I'm mostly pulling these from my bookshelf

Re: The Name Game [message #1968] Sat, 12 June 2004 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it just me, or has this string been "Tucken to extreme'?
<ducks all hastily thrown objects [G]>
Re: The Name Game [message #1969] Sat, 12 June 2004 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cate wrote on Sat, 12 June 2004 13:50

Is it just me, or has this string been "Tucken to extreme'?
<ducks all hastily thrown objects [G]>


Don't you mean <"tucks" all hastily thrown objects [G]>?

(This is even worse...)


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Re: The Name Game [message #1971] Sat, 12 June 2004 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Lee wrote on Sat, 12 June 2004 16:39

Cate wrote on Sat, 12 June 2004 13:50

Is it just me, or has this string been "Tucken to extreme'?
<ducks all hastily thrown objects [G]>


Don't you mean <"tucks" all hastily thrown objects [G]>?

(This is even worse...)

If people keep throwing around groaners like that I'm going to ask Erin to tuck down this thread. Rolling Eyes
Re: The Name Game [message #1973] Sat, 12 June 2004 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anybody who knows me well knows you don't want to start pun wars in my vicinity. That kind of thing is my sort of tucker. Smile

- Erin
Re: The Name Game [message #1976] Mon, 14 June 2004 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since it seems Ellen has used many of the names I can think of already, I can only come up with a few really bad ones.

Tuck It on the Chin.
Tuck it Like a Man. (Ugh!)
Tuck This Job and Shove it!
If it Looks Like a Tuck and Walks Like a Tuck.....
Tuck Me Home.
Tuckle Me Pink.

As I said, they are mostly really bad. Going on a punative expedition is most difficult at times.

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Re: The Name Game [message #1977] Tue, 15 June 2004 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How about:

Fishing Tucker
Tuck up a Collection
Tuck! You're It!
Tuck, Line and Sinker
Tuck-O-War
Every Tuck Has His Day
Tuck Day Afternoon
Love Me, Love My Tuck
Tuck Another Drink
Tuck Seriously
Tuck a Powder
Tax De'Tucktion
Tuck Sack
In'Tucktive Reasoning
Tuck Call
Tuck Whistle
No Bad Tucks
The Gingham Tuck
Go Tuck Yourself
So Long, Tucker!
Played for a Tucker
Semi-Tuck
The Tuck Get Going
Not So Tuck Now

- Erin


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Haven't we forgotten: Tuck the Long Way Home?
Re: The Name Game [message #1988] Wed, 16 June 2004 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and how about
There's a Tucker Born Every Minute
Tucks One to Know One
It ain't Over til the Tuck Lady Sings
Never Stop Tucking
Tuck Chaser
The Three Tuckateers
Liberty and Justice for Tuck
The Romance of Tuck
39 Tucks
Re: The Name Game [message #2489] Sun, 03 October 2004 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm a bit surprised that there hasn't been any comment (at least none that I've noticed) on the titles of 104 and 105.

Anyone have any thoughts?


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Re: The Name Game [message #2490] Mon, 04 October 2004 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Janet wrote on Sun, 03 October 2004 20:47

I'm a bit surprised that there hasn't been any comment (at least none that I've noticed) on the titles of 104 and 105.


There has been, just over in other threads. They're both from Pink Floyd's THE WALL. All of the non-Tuck pun titles have been from Pink Floyd, for that matter.

To repeat my earlier thoughts: the title of 104 is one of several points that make me think Eugene may be gone for good when Tuck wakes up. (I'm nowhere near convinced, but I do think it's a real possibility.)
The song used as the title to part 105 is the first half of the two tracks that normally get played on the radio as simply "Another Brick in the Wall". (The title to 29 is the second half.) Ellen's use of the title is ironically brillant, IMO.

That's all I've got, other than wondering if Ellen chose the name Eugene speicifically to match another episode title.

And I have no idea why I'm not quoting the titles, I just don't feel like it tonight. Just one of those moods, I guess.
Re: The Name Game [message #2498] Mon, 04 October 2004 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Mon, 04 October 2004 05:44

That's all I've got, other than wondering if Ellen chose the name Eugene speicifically to match another episode title.

Nope. I had heard the song (and loved the title, and liked the song) before I started writing, but I didn't choose the name specifically for that reason.
Come to think of it, I'm not entirely sure of the reason I did pick "Eugene", other than - and I remember this - I wanted him to hate his first name. But I don't know why I wanted THAT...


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Re: The Name Game [message #2502] Mon, 04 October 2004 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's also a sly irony; Eugene means well-born, making a comment on Tuck's birth defects. And Wallace means stranger, and a Tucker is someone who cleans cloth. Smile And of course, a Tuck is a fold or a pocket, though in the context of transgenderism it has a more specific meaning. Smile

Valerie means strong or valorous. What's Val's middle name? Sophia? (Wisdom). Alice? (Truth). Helen? (Brilliant). Deirdre? (Womanly). Alexis? (Defender). Brenda? (Sword).

- Erin (Ireland) Smile

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why not victoria (victory) ?

ouch my bad, i forgot vctor/victoria reference! Sad

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Re: The Name Game [message #2513] Tue, 05 October 2004 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Erin Halfelven wrote on Mon, 04 October 2004 19:08


- Erin (Ireland) Smile


Ireland is Erin, yes, but according friends who gave their son the middle name "Erin" it means "peaceful".

Of course, they gave him the first name of "Grendel", so we can't trust them too far. Smile

Re: The Name Game [message #2516] Tue, 05 October 2004 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I can say to that is, "Grendel is a GIRL'S name!" Smile See Beowulf.

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Erin Halfelven wrote on Tue, 05 October 2004 13:43

All I can say to that is, "Grendel is a GIRL'S name!" Smile See Beowulf.

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Just did. It refers to Grendel as "he". Grendel's *mother* on the other hand....

The footnotes on my translation say that Grendel may come from "one who grinds".

Funny thing. Grendel wanted a "normal" name when he started school. So he was called "Patrick". After a while, he asked to go \back to his real name. Too many "Patricks" around. Smile
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Ressurecting a thread here...

Has anybody else noticed that Chapters #137 and #139 have the SAME NAME? I expected that Ellen would eventually run out of what she calls "Tuckisms", but I didn't expect the repeated names being so close to one another...


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Maybe we can give her a few ideas for chapter titles.
Re: The Name Game [message #7085] Mon, 28 May 2012 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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'STuck in the Middle...
OOO... That is not good Shocked
Re: The Name Game [message #7087] Mon, 28 May 2012 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll admit a whole list came to mind as I read through the thing-- but the only one I honestly liked was:

Tuckin Binary
wherein (0) Tuck faces a choice, or (1) a central plot point is some programming feat/deep hack, or (qubit) both Razz

between that and the obvious gender connotation... I was surprised it hadn't happened yet!
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Considering what is going on in Tuck's life: Will he be able to continue to live as a 'boy' Does he still want to live as a 'boy'

He really needs a double session with Sheila where she gets him to come clean. Yes he identifies as a 'boy' But he has been persecuted as a 'boy'

Living a double life as Mike says is definitely causing Tuck problems.

However coming out as a 'girl' at McAllen is very much a problem. In part the reaction that people have to perceived homosexuals is part of an instinctive reaction that says that the tribe will die out if too many people do that. It is also based on a subconscious realization that as long as you're in the center of the 'herd' the lions don't have you for dinner. Unfortunately what we as people forget is that some of us walk around as predators and it is hard to identify who those predators are.

Anyway 'STuck in the middle seems like it might just be the best next chapter name.
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Except that it's almost identical to the name of Chapter 30...

But I agree with you (and Mike) in one point: Tuck really should start thinking about what life he wants, and plan accordingly.

If, for instance, he decides he wants to go Valerie full-time eventually, he can start planning on how best to do it. Should he come out at McAllen? Should he drop out and go the home-school route for the remainder of the year? Should he stay in Tuck-mode until June and then go to college as a girl? Just figuring out which direction he wants to go would help.

But, alas, Tuck is just sixteen. A very mature sixteen in some aspects, but still very immature in others. Like most teens. So asking him to figure out his entire future life at this point is... hard. Very hard.


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And 24...
Then again as some other people have noticed puns on tuck are getting mighty thin.

Though I doubt that is what is keeping Ellen from writing.

As you note Tuck seems quite real unlike some other Main Characters. Still with what he is facing he needs to review the map as he has wandered off from it as some of his dreams indicate. He knows that becoming Val means that he won't be one of da boyz unless Val is like Kelly and an honorary member of the gang... Laughing
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Tuck is deliberately not looking at his options. Several people have pointed out stay male with medical intervention or transition and Tuck has not looked into either of these. Compare this with the situation with Travis where he quite happily looked up how to have sex with Travis, which was a pretty major step for Tuck as it changed some of his self identity.

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Which is why I said there needs to be a double session with Sheila. He may not formulate a plan but someone needs to point out even more plainly than his dad did that as he continues to develop as a female it will get harder and harder to pass as a 'boy' which in some ways (if I'm reading between the lines correctly) has been an issue even before he started to develop as a female (i.e. grow breasts, etc) now with that speeding up he has some severe issues. I can't imagine some of the other people in his cosmetics class not noticing and spreading the word if he continues to try to pass as a 'boy'.
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