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Question about Tuck Season [message #6207] Thu, 02 April 2009 04:59 Go to next message
yukiko  is currently offline yukiko
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Hello,

I want to first start off by saying I am completely new to Saga of Tuck, but I am completely addicted. I love your work Ellen Hayes! Smile

I'm a little sad because I caught up to the latest Tuck(142) so now I'll have to wait for new releases; I prefer doing my reading in large chunks, oh well~

Now that I have to wait for new SoT releases, I've finally decided to start on Tuck Season. The only problem is, I read the instructions part and I get really confused.

*edit (kinda)*
Haha, I think I figured it out while I was typing out my question. So, I guess I'm just seeking confirmation right now.
Am I suppose to read these:

Quote:

Geneology and Timeline:

Seasons Of Change - Joel Lawrence, c. late 1980's
Tales Of The Season, Darla's Story - Tigger, c.1994
Tales Of The Season, Kendra's Story - Tigger, c.1994
Tales Of The Season, Caitlyn's Story - Tigger, c.1996
-> Tuck Season, Wabbit Season, Tuck Season - me, c.1997 <- this one
A Time For Every Season - Tigger, c.1998



first before reading Tuck Season? (Well, all the ones before Tuck Season away)

And if so, can someone confirm that this link is the place I'm suppose to be for the Seasons Stories?

Thank you and I'm sorry if the questions seem redundant.

~Yuki

[Updated on: Thu, 02 April 2009 05:03]

Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #6208] Thu, 02 April 2009 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee
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yukiko wrote on Thu, 02 April 2009 05:59

Hello,

I want to first start off by saying I am completely new to Saga of Tuck, but I am completely addicted. I love your work Ellen Hayes! Smile

I'm a little sad because I caught up to the latest Tuck(142) so now I'll have to wait for new releases; I prefer doing my reading in large chunks, oh well~

Now that I have to wait for new SoT releases, I've finally decided to start on Tuck Season. The only problem is, I read the instructions part and I get really confused.

*edit (kinda)*
Haha, I think I figured it out while I was typing out my question. So, I guess I'm just seeking confirmation right now.
Am I suppose to read these:

Quote:

Geneology and Timeline:

Seasons Of Change - Joel Lawrence, c. late 1980's
Tales Of The Season, Darla's Story - Tigger, c.1994
Tales Of The Season, Kendra's Story - Tigger, c.1994
Tales Of The Season, Caitlyn's Story - Tigger, c.1996
-> Tuck Season, Wabbit Season, Tuck Season - me, c.1997 <- this one
A Time For Every Season - Tigger, c.1998



first before reading Tuck Season? (Well, all the ones before Tuck Season away)

And if so, can someone confirm that this link is the place I'm suppose to be for the Seasons Stories?

Thank you and I'm sorry if the questions seem redundant.

~Yuki


Well, you don't HAVE to read the older stories before Tuck Season, but they certainly will help you to get familiar with the setting and its conventions.

The original Joel Lawrence story is a bit darker than the Tigger ones. Still, if you want the complete picture, it should be a good idea to read it. The list above doesn't mention it, but Tigger wrote TWO different, incompatible endings for it: one called "Second Season" and another called "A Losing Season." For the purposes of preparing you to "Tuck Season," I recommend you to go with "A Losing Season" and ignore "Second Season" for the time being.

"Darla's Story" introduces a few characters who will be mentioned in "Tuck Season", and gives you a better "feel" for the Tigger interpretation of the setting, which is the basis for Ellen's interpretation. So, I would rate this one as pretty important. If you want to choose just one story to read before "Tuck Season," choose this one.

"Kendra's Story" and "Caitlyn's Story" are not as essential right now, because Ellen's rewrite of "Tuck Season" didn't get (yet) to the point where the relevant characters appear. But they add to the "tapestry" of the Seasons Saga, enhancing your knowledge of the setting. However, if you manage to get your hands on the original draft of "Tuck Season" (I'm NOT telling you how to get it, Ellen pulled it from the site and specifically asked people NOT to redistribute it, she would be very annoyed at me if I did, so don't bother to ask), well, then these stories become relevant.

I must say, however, that I read "Tuck Season" before those stories and it didn't hurt the understanding THAT much. So it's possible.

But you certainly will get more from it if you have the Tigger stories in your mind to contrast with. One way to put it is that the Seasons saga works within certain expectations and conventions and Ellen plays with them -- if you don't know what those expectations ARE in the first place, you don't get some of the jokes. And they are GREAT jokes.

The site you linked (which is a mirror of Tigger's old site) is a good source for "Seasons" stories. Have a look at the "Graphic representation" of the story tree in the bottom -- it should give you a better idea of how the stories fit together. The "Tuck Season" shown there is the original draft, though, so the relationship arrows don't apply quite like that to the new version.


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #6209] Fri, 03 April 2009 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yukiko  is currently offline yukiko
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Thank you so much for the explanation.

Sir Lee wrote on Thu, 02 April 2009 09:39

"Kendra's Story" and "Caitlyn's Story" are not as essential right now, because Ellen's rewrite of "Tuck Season" didn't get (yet) to the point where the relevant characters appear. But they add to the "tapestry" of the Seasons Saga, enhancing your knowledge of the setting. However, if you manage to get your hands on the original draft of "Tuck Season" (I'm NOT telling you how to get it, Ellen pulled it from the site and specifically asked people NOT to redistribute it, she would be very annoyed at me if I did, so don't bother to ask), well, then these stories become relevant.



I did manage to get a copy of the older version of Tuck Season without much effort Rolling Eyes But I don't think I'll be reading them.

Ellen Hayes wrote on Sun, 23 December 2007 06:25

Mia wrote on Sun, 23 December 2007 06:36

Is this Ellen's first story of Tuck, or is it a rewrite of what I've seen called "The Original Tucky Seasons.


I'd really like to know who the fuck is passing that original around... they aren't supposed to be doing that. I take that back; I'd like people to stop passing it around, more than I want to know who it is.

I'd have to check dates, but sometime in early Tuck, I couldn't restrain my desire to write the intersection of Tuck and Jane. I did that, with "ehhhh" results - see other posts. And after that, other people (mostly Tigger) wrote more Jane/Seasons stuff, clarifying the characters, adding new characters, taking what I'd said about the location (no, really; Rigger and I emailed about where the hell it was, based on the town names) but hadn't really nailed down, things like that. So, it really could use a rewrite for a couple of reasons, and I had STATED that the original was a first draft version...



I mean, I really do respect the author and the fact that Ellen even said the original received "ehhhh" results makes me not want to read them.


Ellen Hayes wrote in the instructions of Tuck Season Part1

If you haven't read the ongoing Saga of Tuck, then this is not
going to be nearly as good a read.
Likewise, if you haven't read a few of the Seasons stories, this is
not going to make a whole lot of sense.
Read 'em both. And don't whine about 'how much you have to do'; at
least this stuff is all FREE and it probably won't be on the final exam.



This is the main reason why I posted my original question, I wanted to read the story the way the author intended. I feel like any other way might ruin the entire experience these stories have to offer.

Sorry I went off in a tangent, the main point of this reply was just to thank you Sir Lee.
Now, time to finish Seasons of Changes!

~Yuki
Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #6211] Sat, 11 April 2009 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brooke  is currently offline Brooke
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yukiko wrote on Thu, 02 April 2009 01:59

And if so, can someone confirm that this link is the place I'm suppose to be for the Seasons Stories?


Well, it's pretty much an image of the old site which is down. There are a few other stories that have been put up since then.

Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #6219] Thu, 16 April 2009 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have read the new version of Tucky Season, and from reading Tuck Squared, know basically what happened. But I'd love for Ellen to continue the saga of Tucky season.

[Updated on: Thu, 16 April 2009 20:03]

Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #7020] Mon, 21 November 2011 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie85  is currently offline Jamie85
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I know this is an old topic, But ...

Just a bit of history,
I read the Tuck Saga, Then Tucky Seasons (ignoring Jane's Prompt to read the stories by the original author and tigger) .. and although tucky seasons made sense after reading the Tuck Saga .. i have since read what she instructed in the first episode/chapter and it does make a lot more sense, and you get to further understand the other charters in the story ..

I Really hope that Ellen, Continues the original Saga at some point, but her addition to the Seasons Universe Is absolutely wonderful..

Keep Writing Ellen, We all love what you post, maybe someday you will be a well known published author =)
Jamie
Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #7022] Thu, 24 November 2011 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hope Ellen lets Tucky Season get posted at Big closet.
Re: Question about Tuck Season [message #7023] Fri, 25 November 2011 02:07 Go to previous message
Jamie85  is currently offline Jamie85
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stanman wrote on Thu, 24 November 2011 08:08

Hope Ellen lets Tucky Season get posted at Big closet.


As far as i know, Ellen has no problem with her story's being posted @ BigClosit Topshelf .. Actually most of the orignal Tuck Season is already their

So all that needs to be done, if for someone/anyone to post it there, and as-long as they follow Ellen's Rules/Restrictions by leaving it in ASCII format..

Good Idea Stanman,

Edit - Actually Stanman .. someone has posted a link to ellen's main site in the aunt Jane/Seasons Universe/Catagory at BCTS --> http://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/tg-universes-series/aunt-jane-seasons-joel -lawrence <---

[Updated on: Fri, 25 November 2011 02:13]

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