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Surprise! [message #6212] Sun, 12 April 2009 21:09 Go to next message
Ellen Hayes  is currently offline Ellen Hayes
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Part six is finished and up.


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Re: Surprise! [message #6213] Mon, 13 April 2009 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brooke  is currently offline Brooke
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Oh lord. It's *still* heading for a disaster...

You cant really blame them for not expecting Tuck's degree of paranoia, but given it, things are gonna keep getting bad until something gives.

The things that *might* clue in Art and Darla are stuff that nobody is going to think to mention either.

Good chapter, just cringing at what may yet come.
Re: Surprise! [message #6214] Tue, 14 April 2009 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tuck's level of paranoia is over the top. If his parents sent him there, they must have vetted the place, so why would he think they would poison him or intend other permanent damage?

Why isn't he thinking boot camp: learn the game, play the game, win the game? Or thinking martial arts and moving with the attack rather than hitting it head on.
Re: Surprise! [message #6215] Tue, 14 April 2009 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wingnutter wrote on Tue, 14 April 2009 20:55

Tuck's level of paranoia is over the top.


Is it?

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If his parents sent him there, they must have vetted the place, so why would he think they would poison him or intend other permanent damage?


Well ... he was drugged, as very nearly the first thing that happened. It's the tradition, in Seasons stories, to roofie the new "students", then steal their clothes.

Now, suppose that you've been told that you're being sent to boot camp, after a bout of suicidal depression related to the unexpected growth of tits while identifying as a heterosexual teenaged boy. When you get there, people are acting weird, and they drug you, and try to steal your belongings, and then try to surreptitiously dye your hair, meanwhile clearly making no provision for the problems that might occur should your asthma kick in.

Tuck's parents sent him to these dangerous lunatics, with foreknowledge? That would be trust-breaking. I seem to see that Tuck believes his parents had less than full knowledge of the abuses practiced by Jane and company.

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Why isn't he thinking boot camp: learn the game, play the game, win the game?


Because "the game" appears to be child prostitution, with minor boys wearing girls' clothing. Certainly "in the game" is appropriate there, I suppose ... but I don't think Tuck had really anticipated being sent to a training camp for child hookers.

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Or thinking martial arts and moving with the attack rather than hitting it head on.


Hmmmm. I think we may have a different understanding of "head on." I note that there have been no fatalities, as yet, though Tuck has the run of the house at night, and his abusers have very clearly identified themselves and been just as clear that they intend to break his spirit, by assault or by deceit.

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Re: Surprise! [message #6216] Wed, 15 April 2009 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think that Tuck's parents think he is at "bootcamp." I think Lady Jane picked up Eugene Wallace "Tucker" at the train station instead of Eugene "Wallace."

No hints have been made about why Tuck would otherwise be headed to jail. This switch in training would surely violate the Tucker trait of full disclosure. I cannot imagine them allowing him to be drugged.

The parental units gave Tuck permission to take the laptop. Supposing that they did send Tuck to Miss Jane,it is possible they they gave Tuck the laptop thinking that it would be removed from his possession. They also would have, imho, informed Miss Jane that Tuck had the laptop.

It still just screams "mistaken identity" to me.

However, I am starting to worry about Charlie/Charlene. It appears that his "training" may be in danger of unraveling. Or, he may be on the brink of a nervous breakdown himself. Things are certainly getting very stressful.

Still lots to be uncovered.

So Ellen, is Tuck/Valerie as pretty as Michael/Michelle Nash?
Could Tuck be a model?

Thanks for the season.

Jesi
Re: Surprise! [message #6257] Wed, 06 May 2009 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you Ellen for returning to this storyline - I'd all but resigned to the fact that this story was on permanent hiatus. I sympathize that fact that your original story was upended by entropy of the Season's universe between 1999-2002. I look forward to the evolution of this story.

parsing what Brooke wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 05:06

Oh lord. It's *still* heading for a disaster...

Good chapter, just cringing at what may yet come.



Jane's plan of action with respect to TuVal is based upon documents describing a different personality. At some point, if she doesn't validate it with the person who sent the files of Eugene Wallace, she will have to reformulate Tuck/Val personality on her own. This story won't work if Jane figures she got the wrong person too soon.

A typical Season's story is based upon changing a violent aggressive personality, to a non-violent personality through feminization. Tuck will figure out quickly what he's supposed to do, to stay just under the punishment radar of Jane - he just won't know why what she is really doing other than the child-pervert angle. What Jane doesn't realize is that Tuck was taught to physically defend himself by Bill, especially when confronted in a manner in which he's not allowed to walk away.

I look forward to see TuVal at Miss Franson's next. Especially if Valerie gets to pick out her own clothes with a perspective of a 1990's teen versus the anachronism of a 1950's debuntante... Smile
Re: Surprise! [message #6258] Wed, 06 May 2009 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If Tuck does defend himself the way that his dad taught him, Jane might very well send him home, unless she sees why Tuck did what he did. I can see Tuck flipping some adult over his shoulder in the beauty salon or dress shop, and having an asthma attack.

That will tel Jane a lot about Tuck, and possibly lead to an understanding, especially if Tuck finally passes out. And if he ever gets the valium that he needs for dreamless sleep, than he will trust her a bit more.
Re: Surprise! [message #6261] Sat, 09 May 2009 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's been said that Tuck and his family have raised paranoia to an art form. With that in mind, IMHO Tuck is highly unlikely to trust Jane without a lot of what he'd consider proof; after all, from his viewpoint, she or her minions drugged him, stole his property, ignored his possibly-life-threatening allergies, and seem to be grooming him for sale to a pedophile. He's at the point of not really sleeping (just entering 'suspend mode'), and not eating anything that he hasn't prepared.

At this point the story has turned into a battle of wills, something that Tuck's going to win or literally die trying.

Just my two Zorkmids' worth.
Re: Surprise! [message #6426] Wed, 14 July 2010 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lessee, grimoire, Latin-English dictionary with pronunciation guide, black candles, live chicken, knife, paint brush, Cheez-Whiz...
Now for a little thread necromancy!

Jesi wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 18:04

So Ellen, is Tuck/Valerie as pretty as Michael/Michelle Nash?
Could Tuck be a model?


No, Tuck isn't as pretty as Michelle Nash. However, Tuck looks far more natural while in his underwear and screaming - nay, shrieking - at one to get out of his bedroom/bathroom/changing room/dressing room/whatever. He's got his sister (and her friends, and some cousins) to thank.

Also, Tucker is a lot more fun on a date.

As for modeling, he's damned near skinny enough at this point, and pale enough; plus Tucker can do haughty bitch of the royal manor if he concentrates hard enough on remembering his sister (and her friends, and some cousins); but he knows enough about the way modeling actually works that he wants nothing to do with it. Unless it's software based modelling, of course; that's an entirely different kettle of shrimp.

Mmmm, shrimp...

*wanders off*



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Re: Surprise! [message #6432] Thu, 22 July 2010 16:38 Go to previous message
Trisha Clements  is currently offline Trisha Clements
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Personally I have looked at it in the light that while Val may not look as elegant and pretty as some of Jane's other studants she is much more natural. More of a girl next door look rather than the prim and primped debutant that Jane produces in her girl-boys.


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