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Christmas! [message #6226] Wed, 22 April 2009 11:31 Go to next message
iWindoze  is currently offline iWindoze
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Who else thinks that cousin Derek is going to get a big surprise at Christmas when he goes in to wake up the "fag" for breakfast and sees what's growing on Tuck--or should I say Valerie?--'s chest? Or worse, is it possible the cramped conditions of going to Amy's house ends up with all the "boys" sleeping in the same room? Tuck could avoid it all by sleeping in his own bed Thanksgiving, since it was his house, what do you think will happen if he has to bunk with the guys at Christmas?

--iWindoze
Re: Christmas! [message #6227] Wed, 22 April 2009 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It will never happen. Tuck will be rescued by Amy & Susan. Amy may even be able to make arrangements with some friends in NY to house sit during the holidays, possibly securing a nice loft for the girls.

otoh, If by some chance Tuck did end up with the boys, he's got his armor in which he can sleep. There is also the possibility that he'll opt to camp out with the parentals.

I wonder if Pam or any of the pack will be able to tag along, or if Ellen may devise a nice seasonal escapade ending when the ball(s) drop in MSG. Talk about confusion, one testicle vs one ovary. The fight is on for Tuck. Talk about options...

Jesi
Re: Christmas! [message #6228] Wed, 22 April 2009 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee
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It's not THAT much of an issue, I think. Thing is, since Tuck's exams pointed to genetic problems, Sarah has been talking to her siblings and telling them to get tested too. So, even if *Derek* is surprised, I don't think the adult members of the family will be unprepared to the news.

Also, I think it's highly likely that incidents in previous family reunions must have made people aware that surprising the Tuckers in general and Eugene in particular is never a wise idea -- they are bound to react quickly, violently and efficiently. Don't forget that Tuck once had a violent hallucination/night terror during a family event. Derek may mess with Tuck when he's *awake*, but if he EVER tried it with an unconscious Tuck he probably got badly hurt in the deal.

[Updated on: Wed, 22 April 2009 17:53]


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Re: Christmas! [message #6229] Wed, 22 April 2009 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
iWindoze  is currently offline iWindoze
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Good points on the Amy and Susan rescue, body armor, and on the adults knowing about Tuck's condition. The question I have is whether or not the adults in their awe-inspiring wisdom may have decided to not tell Derek and his siblings so as to protect their 'poor widdle ears' or for religious reasons do not want to bring up anything that could 'confuse' their kids? Just because the adults know, doesn't mean the kids do automatically...

Of course it's the winter holidays, Christmas and most especially New Year's Eve coming up shortly after it which usually feature alcohol and religion...not a good mix. I can see one of the interchangeable husbands getting drunk and saying something he shouldn't or reacting inappropriately to some innocent thing Tuck does sending the wrong signal. They don't call 'em "funny uncles" for nothing you know?

--iWindoze
Re: Christmas! [message #6234] Thu, 23 April 2009 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What if Derek knows and verbally atacks Tuck?
Re: Christmas! [message #6237] Fri, 24 April 2009 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee
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Well, I see three possible outcomes:

1. Adults witness the abuse: Derek gets punished.
2. Non-adult (Susan, Amy, Brian, Mike) witness: Derek gets slapped. Hard.
3. No witnesses: Derek learns how dirty Tuck can fight, even hurting all over and wearing cumbersome armor. He may be eligible for a Darwin Award later, depending on how hard Tuck kicks his balls.

[Updated on: Fri, 24 April 2009 06:47]


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icon14.gif  Re: Christmas! [message #6241] Fri, 24 April 2009 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stanman  is currently offline stanman
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Me, I prefer that Derek pisses off Tuck so that he goes into combat mode and floors the asshole as Tuck's parents watch and approve, restoring his rooms locks. Cool Smile
Disclosure and Testing [message #6254] Tue, 05 May 2009 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iWindoze wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 20:08

The question I have is whether or not the adults in their awe-inspiring wisdom may have decided to not tell Derek and his siblings so as to protect their 'poor widdle ears' or for religious reasons do not want to bring up anything that could 'confuse' their kids? Just because the adults know, doesn't mean the kids do automatically...

True. I'd guess that in most cases all that the adults would tell the younger kids (younger than Amy) is something general about needing endocrine tests as a family precaution, never mind for what.

There's also the possibility, since the sisters aren't exactly on ideal terms, that one or more of them figures that Sarah is being overly dramatic, and there's no reason for them to follow up personally or with their own kids. (For one thing, until the current Thanksgiving, none of them other than Amy had seen Tuck since last winter, and back then his physical problems weren't very visible.)

Somewhere in the middle, there's the possibility that one or more of the aunts would test themselves first, on the logical (I think) assumption that if they themselves are not carriers of the defect that's being searched for, there's no point in bothering the kids about it. (And apparently one or more of the aunts has only one parent in common with Sarah, making the genetic connection less likely.)

Bottom line: I agree that we don't know whether Derek has been tested, whether he knows what the doctors and/or technicians were looking for if they did in fact test him, or whether he has reason to connect the whole thing with Tuck. (As we saw, he didn't treat Tuck any differently from Brian, calling them both fags.)

Eric
Re: Christmas! [message #6259] Wed, 06 May 2009 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Derek might think that the testing is because of all three kids. But I still think that he will do something stupid and piss off Tuck's parents, perhaps even Tuck's brother. Brian may not like Tuck, but he will defend his bro.
Re: Christmas! [message #6260] Wed, 06 May 2009 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sir Lee  is currently offline Sir Lee
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Actually, Brian likes Tuck more than he likes to admit. Check for instance his thoughts when Tuck went missing back in April...

Ostensibly disliking one's siblings is part of adolescence, part of finding one's own identity. But underneath all bluster, the Tucker siblings are very close.


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Re: Christmas! [message #6727] Sat, 09 April 2011 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think Brian idolises Tuck.

I need to double check the time lines, but I was wondering if Brian finding out about Val, and thus Tuck heavily rejecting the macho 'norm', effected Brian's decision to save the cat.

Brian obviously doesn't want to go the same way as Tuck but it may have allowed him to see there are other options available.

Then again I may be reading too much into it, but I think its a nice thought.

Jen
Re: Christmas! [message #6779] Thu, 21 April 2011 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't see saving the cat as having anything to do with tuck. Brian may be trying to figure out what it means to be a man, but I think he's got his father as a great example of that. and remember they have been off a couple times by themselves to talk or otherwise have guy time together.

Brian had been watching Tuck hanging out with so many girls at the same time. I think he really believed that Tuck was somehow getting "popular with the ladies". Brian's reaction when he finds out Tuck is gay was a big tell. We can say that it should have been obvious, but obviously Brian didn't feel that way.

Tuck's recent dating of Jill and Pam are probably only going to confuse Brian more since he was having such a hard time coming to grips with tuck being gay. I can see him pretending the whole thing never happened, ignoring that tuck had mentioned he was gay. thinking it was some kind of mistake.

Re: Christmas! [message #6783] Thu, 21 April 2011 14:05 Go to previous message
stanman  is currently offline stanman
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Actually, with Tuck's unique physiology making him a chimera. Tuck can choose which gender to be. So that adds to the confusion.
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