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Ellen's well being [message #6538] Tue, 01 February 2011 13:44 Go to next message
JadenSkywalker8  is currently offline JadenSkywalker8
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Is Ellen ok and if so will she ever get to Tuck 143, I think it would be interesting if someone called her Val while out and she could get some jeans
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6552] Sat, 19 February 2011 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this was posted on the 1st of February.
There is no answer as of yet.
Does anyone know if Ellen is ok?
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6554] Sun, 20 February 2011 02:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well considering the forum spam, utter lack of moderation of said spam, and the way Rachael Greenham's site now displays a default Apple webserver page instead of her fiction (which also hasn't seen much updating) I'm inclined to think it's over.

Too bad, as it was a nice ride while it lasted and it produced a great little community for its time. Wish it had lasted longer, but hey 13 years or so is nothing to sneeze at!

--iWindoze
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6563] Sun, 27 February 2011 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I asked someone on bcts and she got a message from her, and she said shes alright. Shes just dealing with some things right now and shes trying to figure out how to fix tuck.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 February 2011 19:29]

Re: Ellen's well being [message #6566] Tue, 01 March 2011 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is good to hear she is doing well.
Thanks for the update.
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6567] Wed, 02 March 2011 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not that I doubt the person JadenSkywalker8 spoke to, but I'll be reassured things are alright when we can finally hear from Ellen herself that shes doing okay.

That's just the way my sister's boyfriend's stepfather's ex-girlfriend's boss's teacher from middle school taught me to be... Wink

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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6610] Sun, 20 March 2011 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sure you've all noticed but Ellen has posted a couple of new Tucknotes. They explain the lack of contact.

JenC
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6616] Wed, 23 March 2011 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One the one hand... the last four months.

On the other hand, I just looked on here - having another half-day of dogshit, I guess - and found a use for my long-dormant moderator priv's.

Sorry, iWindoze, if any of your replies to spam had any great meaning... they's gone now.


Anyway, I'm alive, I'm writing, I have no hope that the writing will continue, but I'm riding the wave (almost wrote 'wriding' which is kind of an interesting portmanteau) as long as it lasts. And I still haven't tried building a new server, nor trying email from one of the other (four non-firewall) computers yet.


Ellen
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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6621] Thu, 24 March 2011 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yay!

Ellen being back is reason enough to finally bothering to reset my password and stuff where I can access this place again.

I hope things improve for you, and that we manage to see some more of the core Tuck series sometime soon. You've got an excellent writing style, and I've been craving something new for a while now.

Melanie E.


Be happy, be kind, and love yourself for who you are, not who others think you are.
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6622] Fri, 25 March 2011 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rasufelle wrote on Thu, 24 March 2011 23:48

I hope things improve for you

That'd be nice.
rasufelle wrote on Thu, 24 March 2011 23:48

and that we manage to see some more of the core Tuck series sometime soon.


That's a definite not-right-now. But, _I_ haven't given up on it, though I'm sure most readers have.

Ellen Spamslayer
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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6623] Sat, 26 March 2011 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NEVAR!

I shall never give up on the core saga!

Honestly, I don't have any interest in the Seasons stories (never having cared for the universe) but so long as you're still writing I'm happy to wait until you've got things worked out where you feel comfortable posting them.

Tuck is probably the story I would use to introduce my friends to TG fiction if I had any friends who were interested who don't already read it.

Melanie E.


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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6624] Mon, 28 March 2011 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Sorry, iWindoze, if any of your replies to spam had any great meaning... they's gone now.


Not a big deal, mostly I was posting to 1) Mock the spammers for my own amusement and 2) show any new forum members that this place hadn't been abandoned yet (presence of spammers to the contrary).

I'm grateful that you were able to remove the spam, and my messages as well. If it means I take a hit in the post count stats, well...it really isn't about who has the largest post count, is it? Wink

--iWindoze
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6628] Thu, 31 March 2011 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rasufelle wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 13:37

Honestly, I don't have any interest in the Seasons stories (never having cared for the universe)

I totally understand this. In fact, what I DON'T understand is why I'm bothering with it - most of this subgenre leaves me nearly shrieking in rage...

Ellen
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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6629] Thu, 31 March 2011 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 15:02

rasufelle wrote on Sat, 26 March 2011 13:37

Honestly, I don't have any interest in the Seasons stories (never having cared for the universe)

I totally understand this. In fact, what I DON'T understand is why I'm bothering with it - most of this subgenre leaves me nearly shrieking in rage...


I'm not a fan a the sub-genre either - but I am enjoying the difficulties Tuck is causing Twisted Evil

Jen
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6632] Thu, 31 March 2011 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"What did you do to your HAIR!"

Repeat for each group of persons Valerie encounters.
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(I still kinda wonder about the person in the Naval Service.)
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6638] Fri, 01 April 2011 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 10:02

I totally understand this. In fact, what I DON'T understand is why I'm bothering with it - most of this subgenre leaves me nearly shrieking in rage...



I think i understand the feeling, but i want to ask if it's just the anger at seeing a puppy being kicked. Ya that sucks, but it's better than waking up one day and realizing it's not a puppy anymore and having to shoot it. Though either way, i don't know if i want to watch someone kicking a puppy, even if it's for it's own good.

however i suspect from how Ellen's been writing Tuck's experiences that a lot of the frustration for the genre is the hopelessness of the subjugated character. The author presents their options as either bad or worse, and they ignore any other options they might have had.

Like the recent news story of the beauty queen who suffered a home invasion. Police say to not fight, to go along with them, or else you'll be hurt worse. that may be true, but she had a little pink .38 and the story went a completely different way.

that's what i see Tuck Season doing. It's pulling a little pink pistol of intelligence on this sub-genre.
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6639] Sat, 02 April 2011 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kicking a puppy doesn't stop it from still being a puppy, and is more often than not the reason BEHIND having to shoot it later. "Violence begets violence" might seem like a silly sentiment, but a long history of evidence proves its applicability.

Sorry, but it's the truth.

melanie E.


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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6642] Sun, 03 April 2011 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doragoon wrote on Fri, 01 April 2011 05:06

Like the recent news story of the beauty queen who suffered a home invasion. Police say to not fight, to go along with them, or else you'll be hurt worse. that may be true, but she had a little pink .38 and the story went a completely different way.

And the reason you did not include a link to this is?

Ellen
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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6651] Sun, 03 April 2011 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Sun, 03 April 2011 22:24

Doragoon wrote on Fri, 01 April 2011 05:06

Like the recent news story of the beauty queen who suffered a home invasion. Police say to not fight, to go along with them, or else you'll be hurt worse. that may be true, but she had a little pink .38 and the story went a completely different way.

And the reason you did not include a link to this is?



It was something my husband got from a friend off Facebook, so i only had the link second hand.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/22/armed-beauty-queen-fatally-shoots-i ntruder-florida-home-invasion/
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6652] Sun, 03 April 2011 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And now, we crown Miss Badass March 2011, Meghan Brown!

Next, we teach her and her retard boyfriend how to not set themselves up a second time...

Ellen
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Re: Ellen's well being [message #6660] Wed, 06 April 2011 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Thu, 31 March 2011 09:02

In fact, what I DON'T understand is why I'm bothering with it - most of this subgenre leaves me nearly shrieking in rage...



I always figured that was precisely why you got involved in it, this is your answer to those kinds of stories in that subgenre. You're using Tuck here to voice a literary "nuh-uh!" to some of the particularly not well thought out aspects of those types of stories and tossing in a dash of common sense and real life to the proceedings. This is your petticoat discipline to end all petticoat discipline stories.

So long as you realize it won't actually end those types of stories you should be fine. Consider Larry Niven's experience with the many worlds interpretation of parallel universes he tried to put a lid on with his story All the Myriad Ways. He clearly was unable to kill of f the genre but hopefully he managed to make people consider the ramifications of the stories they were writing a bit better. And then since he had gotten it out of his system he was able to tell a really fun story in that genre "For a Foggy Night."

Personally I figure you're doing both at once with Seasons--you're making your points but also having some fun with the concepts as well.

--iWindoze
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6734] Mon, 11 April 2011 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having mulled this over for a few more days, I've come to a disturbing conclusion. The tuck saga agrees with the petticoat discipline stories. Deb used dressing to keep tuck under control at the sleepover just as the pack used it to keep mike under control at that sleepover. Even if it's not true, it's obvious the pack are believers.

but the most damning piece of evidence is from tuck's own words, (20:27 21 Feb) "I think it has something to do with their underwear,... You take away their underwear, and they get
real docile alluva sudden. No more macho!"

true, it was in a lighthearted conversation, but i suspect that somewhere, deep down, tuck believes.
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6735] Mon, 11 April 2011 03:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I should probably let this go, but I've been away for too long and my fingers are itchy.

rasufelle wrote on Sat, 02 April 2011 21:01

"Violence begets violence" might seem like a silly sentiment

because it is. are you actual saying that there is nothing worth fighting for? killing for? Dieing for? That you wouldn't even use violence to save your own life or the life of someone you loved? That the police shouldn't use violence on non-violent criminals?

also, the metaphor of kicking the puppy is just that. I did not mean literal kicking or even necessarily violence of any kind. kicking the puppy can just as easily apply to telling a pediatric cancer patient that their bone marrow transplant won't happen because the donor wasn't a match after all. The child is cute and innocent, like a puppy, and you have to do something that will hurt both of you so much you'd rather not do it at all. but if you let it go, the problem won't go away, and it will just cause more troubles later.
Re: Ellen's well being [message #6912] Mon, 27 June 2011 23:26 Go to previous message
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Doragoon wrote on Mon, 11 April 2011 19:18


rasufelle wrote on Sat, 02 April 2011 21:01

"Violence begets violence" might seem like a silly sentiment

because it is. are you actual saying that there is nothing worth fighting for? killing for? Dieing for? That you wouldn't even use violence to save your own life or the life of someone you loved? That the police shouldn't use violence on non-violent criminals?



I tend to interpret it as a matter of timing and degree, after all applying a force at one time and place can make mundane miracles occur, and at others, well, grenade is the word that comes to mind.

It is more "Violence without obvious justification begets Violence". After all, it takes a special kind of asshat to sue the person who just pulled them out of the path a speeding train...
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