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Police Investigations [message #1952] Wed, 09 June 2004 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 08 June 2004 02:34

Originally this was brought up in the context of episode 100, but...which deputy follows up on the assault and subsequent Traumaflight at a local high school.


Good idea, but if the rules are the same as California, it'd be the city police rather than the county sheriff's office that would handle the investigation, unless the school were outside the city limits, which seems unlikely.

The other possibility would be that Tuck's suburb wasn't incorporated as a city and therefore didn't have its own police force, but that doesn't work because Debbie got permission for her lemonade stand from the City Council, not the County Board.

I'm not sure what the policy would be if the hospital isn't in the same city as the high school, but both were in the same county -- but since the crime took place within the city limits, it doesn't seem to me that the location of the hospital would be relevant.

The county sheriff wouldn't have any authority until/unless somebody was going to the county jail. (Unless Helen got the city to call in the sheriff's office for the investigation -- and she'd only do that once she found out Debbie was involved.)

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Does Helen Know? [message #1953] Wed, 09 June 2004 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 08 June 2004 02:34

Anybody want to give odds on Helen already knowing about Tuck/Valerie? Going back to June, she would have wanted to know why Debbie was so upset after the con. Breaking up with a boyfriend who was in another state at the time as well as getting into an enormous fight with one of her best friends would require some creative explaining, especially if you needed to do it extemporaneously while extremely upset. And cops are notoriously good at detecting bullshit.


Now THAT'S an interesting question and one that I hadn't thought of. But if Debbie knew that Helen knew, she'd probably have told the Pack by now, and the message would have gotten to Tuck via that route. (I think that'd even be true if Debbie told them not to tell. The Pack was established as the one force that could override Debbie when she was looking for vengeance upon their return, and they'd reach their own conclusion on the need-to-know question.) And of course if Tuck knew, WE'D know.

So that brings up the question as to whether there'd be any reason that Helen would have figured it out, but kept the knowledge to herself. It's possible, if Helen didn't feel the need for bawling Debbie out for Valerie's sleepovers. (She doesn't seem to be bothered by Debbie's devious behavior in and of itself -- she wouldn't be able to stop it, since Debbie's legally emancipated, but Helen could make things awfully hard on her at home.)

Depending on what she knows about Debbie and Lisa, she may even be gratified that Debbie got into a heterosexual relationship, albeit one with a feminized boy, and has dated at least one guy, Tom Lenich, seriously since. (Not, probably, because of homophobia but because it'd be more accepted at school and at work.) Or she may have seen no point in intervening since Debbie and Tuck had clearly broken up.

If the latter's true, she'll certainly see that Debbie still has feelings for Tuck after the latest incident; as OtherEric's last sentence above points out, Helen's not going to settle for a story that Debbie's doing all this to avoid hiring another babysitter for the Parkers. In offering her support, Helen may very well have reason to tell Debbie she knows the situation. But (as OtherEric also pointed out) it's hard to see where we go from that tenuous line of "it's possibles" in terms of the storyline, especially now that Tuck's been outed to most of our important characters already.

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Re: Does Helen Know? [message #1959] Wed, 09 June 2004 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eric wrote on Wed, 09 June 2004 17:42

But if Debbie knew that Helen knew, she'd probably have told the Pack by now, and the message would have gotten to Tuck via that route.

Why would Debbie tell the Pack? They would probably be unhappy with her blowing the story, espically since around that time they were already annoyed with how she treated Tuck. She wouldn't want to upset them even more on behalf of their other friend. And if she didn't tell them then, there would seem little reason to bring it up later if the relationship between Deb & Tuck was over.
I really do have trouble seeing how, at this point, it could become a major point in the storyline. But I think it might be an interesting minor point. Chaos effects could then lead to something more signifigant. Mostly, though, it's just an odd follow-up to something I caught on re-reading. I see a lot of new details every time.
Re: Does Helen Know? [message #2533] Thu, 07 October 2004 06:23 Go to previous message
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It'd be kind of interesting, though, if Helen, knowing that Debbie's there, decides to visit Tuck in the hospital. If Helen didn't know before, a whole lot will suddenly become a lot clearer to her. If she did already know (and had been cool with it) and Debbie wasn't aware of that until now, it could put a slightly different focus on a bedside discussion as to how Debbie and Tuck (if he's conscious) feel about re-establishing their relationship.

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