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The whole adventure started during the first Sunday dinner after graduation.

"Hey, why don't we all go to the same place for all those classes everybody has to take? Maybe we can all live together?"

Tuck didn't catch who said it first but the reaction by the group was an example of acclimation (SAT word). He shook his head in disgust. "Seed crystal and a supersaturated solution," he griped to Mike.

"I was thinking kind of like a septic tank system accumulates-"

"Shut UP Mike!"

Sarah got everybody's attention with one of her armor-piercing whistles. Into the ringing silence that followed Bill said, "Let's establish the criteria first and then look for a place. First, I'm assuming that nobody wants to live at home and attend a school here."

That was met with a chorus of denials.

"Okay, so we're looking for a state-supported school that offers all the intro stuff - bonehead math, beginning English-"

"Yeah, Tuck needs that."

"Shut UP Sabrina"

Bill kept on going over the interruption, "-that's accredited so the credits will transfer." He took off his glasses and polished them with his shirt tail. He put them back on. "All of you high-school escapees follow me; we'll do some research down in the basement where have whiteboards and network connections. I want a couple of you to look up the requirements for likely majors at the state university and the rest look for schools that offer them. We also need to look at student housing, if freshmen have to live in dorms, dining, all that. One good thing about small schools is that they usually don't have the big sports - football, hockey, soccer - so you'll be less likely to run into the jocks."

The research effort yielded a state college a full day's drive down the Interstate, with all the live-in student amenities - dorms, dining halls, a gym, an indoor swimming pool and a small stadium. The school had swimming and track-and-field teams. The stadium doubled as a venue for rock concerts.

There was a small town called Crossroads south of the city, on what was the main truck route before the Interstate went through 10 miles to the East. The researchers turned up the Starlite, an almost-out-of-business motel in Crossroads that was big enough for all of them to live.

The most important part for the families was that they could rent the entire motel for a year for less than it would cost for their kids to live in the dorms.

There was a coffee shop attached to the motel that had gone through several incarnations and was equipped with soda dispensers.

"Espresso machine," Lisa said when she heard that, and Debbie wrote it down.

"Hey, we've already got fountain sodas!" Mike said.

Book's father had a connection for used restaurant equipment but the hygene requirements for a softserve ice cream machine were more than anyone really wanted to put up with.

"Slurpees!" George enthused, and Lisa mimed gagging.

Book said, "Nope, that kind of thing's almost as nasty to keep clean as soft-serve. Plus it's a trademark of Seven-Eleven and we don't wanna get involved with them."

Dan added, "Your brain's already frozen, don't try to make it worse."

Tuck adamantly refused to cook for anyone else, Sunday dinners possibly excepted with sufficient bribery.

Debbie mentioned that Lisa ran a catering business and the parents made her an attractive deal to be the 'supervisory cook' so the kids would learn how to cook for themselves.

"Hey, we get pie and stuff, right?" George asked.

"If you bake it!"

"Aw, man, I thought I was DONE with that crap!"

Tucker glared tiredly at George. "You are SUCH a FUCKHEAD."

Bill and the rest of the parents really wanted to find someone to ride herd on their kids but all the kids were legal adults, so the parents just sighed and crossed their fingers. And worried a lot.

It was a whirlwind summer but by the time school started Bill, Tuck, Mike and the rest of the crew had the security system, network and servers installed, and the rooms prepped for (and in some cases with the assistance of) their future occupants.

Now it was Moving Day and Tuck was already tired.

"Dammit, George, carry the boxes to the far end of the room, don't just drop 'em inside the doorway to trip over the next time!"

"Fuck you you little round-eyed dipshit freak of nature!" George shot back instantly.

I kinda wish there had been some good way to uninvite George, Tuck thought.
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Sabrina commented to Valerie, "I don't know how you manage to do all that work and keep looking so feminine."

Valerie looked down, to make sure Debbie hadn't surreptitously changed her clothes. *Nope...* M-82 Woodland BDU pants, kneepads, black high-tops, 782 gear, OD tank top, elbow pads, work gloves, and the extra inertia when looking down assured her that she still had her caving helmet on.

"SARCASM, Val!"

"Oh, right." She wiped her forehead. "Sorry."

-------------------------

"Yeah," Debbie smiled at Donald, who she was trying to impress, "it's sort of our little bastion of femininity-"

A rope fell to the ground next to Debbie.

"GODDAMNIT WOULD YOU PEOPLE FUCKING STOP!" she shrieked at the roof, but too late; Val threw herself off the roof anyway, rappeling to a stop just high enough above the pavement to swing her feet down. She cast the rope off and scampered away, in time for the next one to make the rope dance as they prepared to rappel down too.

"Hey Deb," Kathy panted as she un-ropes herself. "Is this Don? Hey Don," she smiled.

"On rappel!" George yelled from the roof, and Debbie gave up.

[Updated on: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:32]

Re: After graduation [message #7845] Mon, 13 May 2013 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(warning: the following is NON-CANONICAL, and does not count)

"You do NOT need four THOUSAND WATTS of SPEAKERS for the DINING ROOM!" Debbie screamed, making Tucker wince.

*I wouldn't if I could hook YOU up,* he thought, but managed not to actually say that out loud.

...

"She'd only let me get two thousand," Tucker complained.

Mike pointed out, "Dude, that's still enough to cause a lab rat to implode."

Tucker rubbed his forehead. "Yeah, but I was kinda hoping to see if I could get a fusion reaction going."

"Right there in the dining room. Riiiight."

"It could-"

George interrupted, "You gonna work or you gonna chat? This shit don't wire itself!"

Tucker moaned and ran his fingers through his hair, but got up anyway. Besides, candlelight dinners got old after about two days' worth.

...

As the sound ramped up, and some people winced - either because it was that loud, or because they hadn't put their earplugs in - Tucker and Mike carried in a small metal stand, upon which was affixed a wine glass.

...

"Oh, it was TOTALLY fucking rigged," George grinned. "But it looked awesome when the glass exploded, didn't it?"

...

"Because we couldn't afford the fucking insurance," Debbie complained. "You wouldn't BELIEVE what they want per month." She shook her head, as Tucker was doing.

"Okay, so, if we can't make money doing it," George asked, "and I KNOW we'll be losing money just from the electricity, why ARE we doing it?"

Debbie ticked off on her fingers, "One, it's cheaper than us going out clubbing. Most of the stuff we got used, and we can sell it to someone else in a few years. With all of us to sort of amortize the cost, it's not too bad. Two, networking. With people coming here, we don't have to go to them, and we'll be getting people who aren't afraid of new things. Neophiles. Which is the sort of people that are driving the dot-com thing, right? Three, it increases the non-club rental possibilities, as a facility for another group, if we want to do that. Or need to," she admitted. Their capital investment in the place was starting to worry her. "Four, it'll work as a recording venue for anyone that wants some live crowd, like bands. Or 'DJV'. Five," she grinned, "it's for those of us with control freak issues."

"So," George hypothesized, "if I don't like someone-"

"And it's not a specially invited guest of someone else," Debbie inserted.

"-Out they go?"

Debbie nodded, smiling. *Hooked!*

...

"You are not," Kathy challenged.

"I am!" Tucker argued. "Look, with the ear cups on the S model, it blocks about 30dB, and with the ANR going I can get about that down at the low end, twenty to a hundred hertz. Has a microphone and intercom switch, and if we get the DH-132AS instead of the plain-S, we have some ballistic protection, an-"

"You're worried about someone shooting you?"

"Always!"

...

Pam sighed as she plopped into the chair next to Debbie, "I wish they wouldn't do that."

"Do what?" Debbie asked as she looked up.

Pam pointed, at the cluster of George, Sabrina, Mike, Dan, Val, and Jill, and Kathy filming them with the good video camera. "Aren't those things illegal?"

"Not past the edge of town." Pam glanced at her, and she added, "Of COURSE I checked. YOU know what they're like." Mike and Val had tried to convince her to get an artillery piece. Debbie looked over at them. "What're they doing with 'em?"

"Oh, one'll do a move or a sequence, and the others try to copy it."

Debbie watched as George pulled his balisong from his collar and started waving it around.

"At least," Debbie reminded Pam, "it's not guns."

...

"Made it!"

"Okay," Mike agreed as he peered at the dice. "You slowly pull the door open..."

A loud and entirely ominous groan of protesting hinges filled the dining room.

"Dude!" Tucker protested, "You stole that from Thriller!"

And got zapped with the two-quart plant spritzer. "Shut up, Tuck. As the door opens, you hear some kind of slithering noise..."

"Snakes; why'd it have to be- Damnit!"

"Shut up Tuck!" the other gamers chorused.
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"I'd rather be cooking," Tucker sighed, and wiped his forehead carefully.

"Well, next time, don't lose the bet," Debbie grinned sardonically. "And SMILE!"

Tucker gave his best imitation of a beauty pageant face, and Debbie nodded before taking her tray and going out. Her petticoats swished as her four inch black heels tapped on the floor, and Tucker sighed as he watched her go through the door, from behind.

*She'd look a lot better in that maid's outfit, if I wasn't wearing the exact same thing...*

Then there was the irritating question that wouldn't go away; why did she have TWO identical outfits? They WEREN'T cheap. Admittedly, some of it could be recycled into other outfits, like the lace-topped white socks, or the fishnets; but not the 'aprons' or the hat-thing that was tied over his hair.

"Shit." Tucker picked up his tray, jammed his face into that hideous plastic pseudo-smile, and approached the door.
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"So, you work here?" Jim asked.

Valerie chuckled as she shook her head. "No, I do other stuff." She sipped at her soda. "So, um, you were saying in class..."

Jim had noticed the engine noise, but hadn't really NOTICED it, until it got nearly impossible to hear the girl speaking. When he looked around, though, he almost fell out of his seat, because there was a HELICOPTER, looking like it was landing in the parking lot.

"DON'T WATCH!" Valerie screamed at him; he had problems hearing her. "IT JUST ENCOURAGES HER!"

...

"Hey, anyone home?"

Mike keyed the transmitter. "Negative, Ghost Rider; the pattern is full." When he was sure he'd unkeyed it, he announced, "Put your drinks down, Sabrina's making a fast pass!"

Within thirty seconds, the UH-1 screamed through the parking lot at about forty feet above the ground and doing at least a hundred miles an hour.

...

"Oooh, a Corvette!" Pam looked at Sabrina, but couldn't do it for very long. "He's got a Corvette!"

"Really?" Sabrina smiled, and Pam had to look away. "How fast does it go?" Pam burst out laughing.
Re: After graduation [message #7850] Mon, 13 May 2013 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Man I think this thread almost belongs in the fan fic threads. I love it. Almost another whole chapter of Tuck (even if it isn't canon) Thanks for sharing.
Re: After graduation [message #7854] Mon, 13 May 2013 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"You know what we really need here?" Mike asked, surveying the pool area.

"Mortar pit," Valerie threw in, not looking up from her laptop. "Eighty-ones."

Mike's mouth opened. "Mortar pit," he breathed, his smile growing.

"Unless we could get, like, one of those towed one-oh-fives, and set IT up. Oh, wait, not 'do while'! What the..."

"One of each?"

"Hnh? NO you stupid f- Oh, indirect fire weapons. Sorry, thought you meant one of each conditional," she explained, shaking her head.

"THIS IS NOT A FUCKING FIREBASE!! Debbie shrieked. "Shut up about artillery or putting machineguns or rockets on the helicopter or antitank launchers or antiaircraft anything!"

Mike tried to deflect some of the anger, "Chill, Deb! We're just funning around."

"That kind of talk is just the thing the fucking ATF is listening for and we don't want the fucking Feds looking under every rock around this place!"

[Updated on: Mon, 13 May 2013 22:54] by Moderator

Re: After graduation [message #7855] Mon, 13 May 2013 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Man, she never lets us have any fun," Dan sighed.

"Yeah, she's a bitch alright. Your shot."

Dan turned, drew, and threw the knife; it hit the life-sized enlargement of the Vanity Fair cover featuring Gisele in the throat. "Dude! Eight points!"

Tucker sighed, "Bitch."

"Don't call me that. I'd let you have a towed one-oh-five."

Tucker turned and threw a shuriken, which missed Gisele's left ear by four inches. "Aw, man! Besides, the only reason you'd let me have one, is so you could borrow it."
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"Why do I have to wear a dress?!"

Debbie sighed. "Be-CAUSE, Valerie, you need to get out and circulate, schmooze with people. You're a female DJ, and those are uncommon, and people'll want to meet you. Mike can handle the music 'n lights some of the time."

"I don't want him to handle the music and lights; I want to handle them."

***

"Shut the fuck up, Mike," Tucker sighed.

"Have you considered plugging your ears with wax?"

"I think it's like psychic or something. I'd need a tinfoil hat." Tucker stood up carefully, calibrating his balance for the three inch heels. "These are stupid shoes."

"They look sexy, though." Mike shook his head. "What I don't get is, how's she expect you to dance in 'em?"

"I'm just glad this one isn't like classical night; I'd have to do it backwards with some dumbass pushing me around." Tucker started rummaging through the jewelry box.

"You could get George to partner you."

"Yeeeeeeeeeah, Mike, great idea. I mean, he does love me so much."

"Yeah, but at least he knows how to dance. Better than J. Random guy, anyway."

"So do you," Tucker pointed out. "Oh, these." He started fiddling with an earring.

"You sure you want to wear those?"

"What? Why- Ahhhhh," he cursed. Headphones and any but the smallest stud earrings did not go together.

Mike continued, "Unless you want me to do the whole set."

"No. Shit..." Tucker stared at himself in the mirror. "You sure I don't need earrings? Maybe like a bigger necklace or something?"

"Sure. Sure you don't need anything else," he clarified, "It's good enough, let's go. I'm hungry."

"You're always hungry, Mike!" Tucker took Mike's arm and clattered out and towards the dining room.

***

"Hey sailor, buy a girl a drink?"

Valerie gave Debbie a who-are-you-trying-to-kid look, but turned and pumped a couple of shots of Coca-Cola syrup into a new glass, then added soda water, stirred it, added a straw, and handed it to Debbie before picking her own drink back up.

"You look nice tonight," Valerie said, out of the blue.

"Thanks!" She was hoping someone else would think she looked nice... That was, after all, why they were hosting their own dance.

[Updated on: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:21]

Re: After graduation [message #7857] Tue, 14 May 2013 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"They're the only sorority that does road trips in their own fucking busses, man," Kurt sighed.

"Yeah, but..." Matt shook his head.

"Plus they have an NRA rifle team."

"Yeah b- They what?"

"And they do that geek thing at renaissance festivals? Sword fighting demonstrations?"

"Dude," Matt said skeptically, "you're making this up."

"Dude, I'm not. I'm just saying, is all, you might want to be careful. They're NOT NORMAL," he emphasized.

Matt didn't believe anything that he heard. Two nights later he and a dozen of his frat buddies went over the fence on a panty raid. They were met by bright spotlights in their eyes, a gong and a voice saying "General Quarters" playing from the PA system.

A minute later he heard a big Diesel engine start up and an instant after that all his exposed skin felt as if it was on fire.

Matt and his buddies tried to make it back over the fence but they were run down by a bunch of dark figures that appeared out of the glare behind them.

When the town police got there they found all the intruders handcuffed to the fence. Kathy took the lead, "Yes, sergeant, we'll press charges."

Mike wanted to add, "If they'd made it into the building we might have shot them," but he thought it best to quietly return the weapons to the armory.

Dan buttonholed him while he was on his way, "Didja hear how much they were screaming? Didn't I tell you that a generator would give us enough juice to make the antipersonnel microwave emitters really work?"
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"George," Mike said patiently. "Bud." He put an arm around George's shoulder. "You're gonna put up with it, for the scenery."

"What scenery?"

Mike walked George over to the window, arm still draped over his shoulder.

All, apparently, of the girls were taking advantage of the rare Indian Summer day, by sitting in front of the pool on the cheap loungers they'd put into storage two months ago. Even the fattest one was not THAT fat, and some of them are quite thin, and others are quite busty. Half of them had those stupid-looking drinks with fruit in them.

All of them were wearing bikinis.

Mike stated, "So you're gonna smile, and nod, and tell Tuck you don't mind... and they will keep doing THIS."

George breathlessly agreed, "Yeah."

They watched, in silent cameraderie, as Kathy sneaked up behind Debbie, apparently successfully because Debbie didn't scream or run off until it was too late and Kathy grabbed her, threw her into the pool, and performed an abbreviated impromptu victory dance before running to escape Debbie's sodden wrath.

"Okay, you have a very definite point," George agreed.
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"Good evening everyone. This is Julia of KYSS - Your Silly School Radio station on the lovely grounds of Bewildered College located in the vibrant city of Electroshock Therapy.

"Tonight we have the latest installment of 'A Penny's Worth', the continuing saga of girl detective Penny Granger in small-town New England, followed by a dramatic reading of the next chapter in the underground classic novel The Eye of Argon."

...

"How far do you think she'll get THIS time?"
"Three paragraphs."
"Nah; five."
Money was placed on the table.

edit: IIRC Julia's in theatre, not Amanda

[Updated on: Sat, 27 July 2013 19:39]

Re: After graduation [message #7865] Wed, 15 May 2013 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This thread justifies my creation of this Tuckerspawn site. Smile

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Re: After graduation [message #7866] Wed, 15 May 2013 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Uhhhhgh." George stared blearily at the girl-shape in front of him. *I love anyone who brings me coffee.* And it was not too hot, and creamed and sugared, just like he liked.

Eventually he figured out that she was blurry; shortly after that, he scrubbed his eyes to get the gunk out so he could see.

"Aw, man..." It wasn't a girl, it was Tucker. Who was wearing a black nightgown thing, with lace over the tits and those little string straps; and a matching robe. "Why're you doing this?"

"What? The coffee?" Tucker asked dazedly, and George gave it up for now.

***

"What?" Tucker looked down. "Oh. Um..." He shrugged. "I... I think it was clean. We gotta get the laundry room up and running. Wha'ja want for breakfast?"

"That doesn't explain the heels," Dan put in.

"Wha- Oh. Goes with the rest of it, duh."

"Man, you know what I want?" George said. "Two eggs, runny fried, on top of two slices of leftover pizza. The deep dish stuff. And maybe extra bacon on top. Oh man, yeah," he agreed with himself, almost smiling.

The horror of it woke Tuck up much faster than the coffee. "Are you fucking kidding me?"

"Oh man!" Dan enthused. "Except with sausage underneath."

"Both," George said, and the two of them nodded at each other.

"You're serious," Tucker confirmed, staring back and forth at the two of them.

***

"Oh, can I get some of that?" Pam asked Valerie, who was looking very post-successful-date this morning, in a negligee and peignoir set, and marabou kitten heels, and her apron from high school. She was dumping a plate of stir-fried vegetables onto some rice, on a plate that already held some watermelon and honeydew slices.

"Sure," she nodded, and smiled. Pam found herself smiling back.

"Dude, what the hell are you eating that rabbit food for?" Mike complained. "You keep that up, you're gonna look all skinny like Pam here." He jerked his jaw towards Pam in a friendly way, and she nodded at him in good morning. "Bright the day, m'lady," he added, which made her smile again.

"Because, Mike!" Valerie moaned in reply, "Did you see what those two are eating?!" Pam looked over, and had to stare at their plates, because she couldn't-

"Eggs and bacon and sausage on top of leftover pizza!"

Pam's stomach contracted unpleasantly.

"Can I get a plate of that?" Mike asked.
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Mike knocked politely on the door, and turned to grin at Debbie.

She was about to say something to him when the door opened. "Hi!" Debbie said to the girl. "Kindler and gentler panty raid!"

"What?"

Debbie smiled. "You know the panty raid thing going around campus?"

She nodded hesitantly.

"We have a better way to do it, and we'd like to know if you'd be willing to help."

"I heard about one of those raids where the assholes got their butts kicked-"

"That was us," Mike interjected. "We take our security seriously."

Debbie continued, "And our team can review your arrangements. The review's free and we can put in the system for about half of what anyone else will charge. Oh, can I leave you a brochure for our salon? Several of our girls are licensed cosmetologists."

...

Mike looked at the wagon he was pulling, which now contained somewhere around NINETY pairs of used - and supposedly clean, but they'd be practicing biohazard protocols anyway - panties, all gained without spending a dime (not counting the wagon) or committing any misdemeanors, much less felonious assaults.

"You're unnatural," he mentioned to Debbie.

"And I'm going to have the biggest panty collection on campus," she smiled, though not at him.

...

"No! We are NOT putting them up on the fucking WALLS, Debbie!"

...

"Well, see," Valerie explained, "the 'Great Panty Raid Of 2001' never really ENDED. I mean, apparently one or more of the sororities we hit figured out, what else CAN you do with dead panties?"

"'DEAD' panties?"

"You know, where the elastic's gone, or ripped, or you've worn it for a few too many periods and now it's got holes in it..." She noticed the look. "We BOIL them when we get 'em, just to be careful. I wanted to have an autoclave, but they wouldn't spring for one. Still, we tested our cleaning methods, cultured stuff out of 'em after washing 'em and had bacteria counts, oh, jeez, like four orders of magnitude below the control samples. So it's clean."

The two girls who had taken Microbiology class nodded, the others leaned away from Valerie and tried not to throw up. The guys left the table in a rush, looking a bit green.

[Updated on: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:59]

Re: After graduation [message #7869] Wed, 15 May 2013 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 15 May 2013 06:17



"Eggs and bacon and sausage on top of leftover pizza!"

Pam's stomach contracted unpleasantly.

"Can I get a plate of that?" Mike asked.


Kathy looked at the plates with a raised eyebrow. "Clag," she declaimed.

Mike asked, "Huh? What's wrong with it?"

"That's the sound your arteries make when that amount of cholesterol hits them."
Re: After graduation [message #7870] Thu, 16 May 2013 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tuck's computer repair and upgrades, one of the various business cards I carried said. I liked it except when I got a call from a user who couldn't even bother to check to see if both ends of his computer power cord were connected. I still charged $50 for the service call though I wondered if I was going to need the stamina I'd built up dancing with Pam and running with Jill in order to run away from him. His roommate was a bit more or less of a help in the situation by saying, "Man if you're too stupid to check to see if the power cord is plugged in are you sure you should be messing with something that runs on magic blue smoke?"

That discussion looked like it might devolve into a knife fight but the gorilla throwback's roommate handed me a fairly new picture of US Grant and said he'd take it out of the other guy's hide. "Getting on the wrong side of a geek is a good way to fail all of your classes," he said as an explanation. I didn't need that idea rattling around in my head but I knew that it wouldn't ever go away. As a method of revenge it seemed perfect for me.

The guy who gave me the $50 (I never did learn their names) asked if I would buy a couple of truly dead machines. I thought about it and offered him $10 which was probably too much... Then again if they had salvageable power packs I could probably resell them for that much so they'd be a net wash. If they had any other parts that I could use they would go toward an idea Mike and I were working on, that is creating a facsimile of the holodeck from STNG.
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"Well, we now have air superiority over all the other-"

Tucker shrieked, interrupting Mike, "Air superiority sorority!"

"Dude, that's SICK," George grinned.

...

Mike thrust out his chest, displaying the green-on-black wireframe of a Cobra attack helicopter; the caption read 'THE AIR SUPERIORITY SORORITY'.

"Dude, where did-"

Before Tom could finish, Mike turned around, displaying the back of the T-shirt, which said, 'OFFICIAL POOL BOY'.
Re: After graduation [message #7879] Sun, 19 May 2013 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tech Support Notes

I was working on a user's computer again. At least I could charge service call rates I thought as I defucked Win98. How could a new OS be so messed up I asked myself rhetorically. Because it was fucked up in the first place. I answered silently.

"What's a cute girl like you doing working on computers," the owned by the OS of demons asked me in an attempt to distract me from repairing the fact that Windows had once more completely fouled up. Either that or he thought I might be willing to work for a date with him.
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One of the dead machines was a fairly recent Compaq minitower. It wasn't mostly dead; it was completely dead - a lightning strike fried everything beyond the possibility of repair. All the Magic Smoke was gone.

The guys that designed the case must have built tanks or battleships before they got into computers 'cause that case was designed to be bullet resistant, for small values of 'bullet' and variable values of 'resistant.'

I really got my money's worth by taking it to the next ren faire and charging a quarter per smack with a ball peen hammer.

It was ridiculous how few people knew what 'Luddite' meant. Or the original meaning of 'saboteur.'

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...

"Notice," the computerized voice announced, "car, front gate," and George paused the Legends Of Galactic Heroes tape and switched to channel 111, which was the front gate camera.

The station wagon chugged up in front of the gate and a woman got out, leaving a high-school-aged girl and a baby in the car. She was in her early 30s, dressed in a t-shirt and jeans, and looked the worse for wear. One eye was blackened, probably within the last 24 hours. All the car's windows were rolled down in the heat. "Can we rent a room for the night?" she said into the speaker.

"Aw, SHIT," George complained to himself as he got up and went to the intercom.

"We're not open to the public."

"Oh, God," she said to herself. "Can we come in and use the bathrooms?"

The girl in the car called out, "Colin's stinky!"

"And I need to change my son. Can I do that?"

"Sure; just pull on the gate when it buzzes."

George switched the intercom to 1MC and announced, "General; we've got a woman an' two kids asking for bathroom privs, front gate; looks like a domestic violence case." He hung up and went over to his computer, switched terminals to a blank and logged in as George-Incident and grabbed his headset. "George Incident up."

"Aw, man, I don't need this," Valerie complained, but she went and got her 1911A1 and a small inside-the-pants holster, or in this case it was a inside-the-skirt holster.

"Amanda responding," came Amanda's voice from the bitch box.

Valerie slipped into flats and went over and dialed 1MC and announced, "Valerie, responding." She grabbed her headset and radio pack, stuck the earpiece in, put the throat mike around her throat, put the new body armor on, and added a large T-shirt over everything. "Wish we had cameras on these," she sighed as he trotted out. "And a helmet. And cyberware, and/or powered armor..." The frustrating thing about sci-fi was that you knew all this possible cool shit you could have or do, except it hadn't been invented or discovered yet.

Valerie and Amanda met the three as they approached the pool area. The woman was in the lead and the girl tagged along carrying the baby and a diaper bag.

Valerie said, "The bathrooms are over here in the pool house."

Amanda added, "We have showers and towels if you'd like to clean up."

"Ohio plates, Bravo Kilo Papa three two three," George read to himself as he typed that into the incident log. "Car is a Ford, is that a Taurus?" he asked himself. "Man, we gotta do something about this." He had in mind something that would allow instant review and frame-capture from the surveillance cameras, instead of having to wait and take the tape off-line and then do it manually by winding the actual tape. "Why isn't Tuck making this instead of fucking around Saturday
nights? How's she supposed to make us all rich if she's out having fun instead of inventing shit?" He cranked up a remote digital camera, panned it around until it could see the car, and started taking pictures.

The woman said, "This is really Christian of you. Oh, my name is Trudy and this is my step-daughter Barbara. The baby's Colin."

*Oh, BROTHER,* Valerie moaned to herself. Anyone who had to announce how 'Christian' it was to be a decent human being, was not someone he wanted within range.

George typed the names into the incident log entry. "Got 'em," he said into the radio.

Valerie noticed how Barbara was looking at the pool. "Why don't you get your suits and a change of clothes. Swim a little before you leave."

Barbara answered, "I don't have- we didn't bring any suits."

Valerie was about to say something when his radio complained, "Don't be an ass, Tuck!"

Amanda took over, saying, "We'll find you something. Here, let me take Colin."

Trudy said, "We really need a place to stay; I drove all night."

*Uhhhh, shit.* George thought, and finally decided on Defcon Three. He typed in the incident log, 'DEFCON 3 called on suspicion of domestic abuse.'

Mike had joined the group with his radio gear on. "Trouble following you?"

"I didn't like the way he'd been looking at Barbara. We yelled at each other some and he hit me, then he had to go work at the truck stop. I put some stuff in the car and took off for my
sister's."

"Is this the straight route to your sister's?"

"Yes. Oh my goodness; do you think he might be following us?"

Valerie's telepathy flashed on for a moment; they were all thinking the same thing, *What a fucking idiot!*

"Can't hurt to take precautions," Mike replied. "Give me your keys and I'll pull the car around to the back where it can't be seen from the road. What does your husband drive?"

"God bless you. Andy drives a big green pickup."

"Do you know the year, the manufacturer, the model? Maybe license plates?"

"Uh, no."

Mike managed to get the car started. He drove it around behind the motel and turned off the engine. *This thing's sick,* he thought. *Need to get this looked at.*

"Call in," he radioed to George. That would get the call recorded.

"911 are you calling for police fire or ambu-"

"Police," Mike interrupted.

"Dispatch, this is Wanda."

"Hi Wanda; this is Mike from the Starlite."

"What can I do for you?"

"We have a probable domestic abuse victim here and there's a chance that her husband might be following her. I have her car around back so it's not likely it'll be spotted but please have the sector car keep an unofficial eye out for a big green pickup nosing around."

Everybody knew, though nobody would say, that it would look a lot better if actual law enforcement could intervene, rather than leaving it up to the Pack et al.

"Will do, Mike."

"She's here with two kids so we're going to put them up for the night and sort it all out tomorrow."

"Well, if they'll be safe anywhere it'll be with you guys."

"That's what us sorority sisters do, look out for others."

Wanda asked, "So are you ever gonna wear that pretty-"

Mike hung up before she could finish. *Damnit. I don't think that bet was worth the money.*
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If you rescue someone, you become responsible for them. The best thing that you can do for them is to push them to become able to care for themselves again.

We'd pinned that up on a poster sized board at the beginning of the year to help remind us that we really should be careful of the amount of help we gave out. I didn't entirely need the reminder. My dad told me that my college fund would pay for my books and classes, nothing more. I would have to work my way through college if I wanted to live anywhere but the place he'd provided that I was sharing with my friends. Some of them thought that I was getting a free ride, but I didn't have any money that I didn't earn with current work. And current work for me seemed to be a couple of hours as a cosmetologist, cutting hair and applying make up. I didn't have regular clients. Really none of us did, but since Debbie had passed out business cards saying that we offered the service one of us. That is Kim, Jill or me had to be available to take appointments or even walk-ins.

The guy whose hair I was cutting a lot like I remembered John cutting mine the first time Debbie had taken me to him spotted the poster and said, "Is that sort of like 'Don't feed the bears'?"
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"I'm not wearing a tuxedo," George asserted.

The girls just looked at him. Tucker grinned, as Debbie sighed.

"I'm NOT wearing a tuxedo!" he repeated insistently.

Tucker shook his head as Debbie started in.

***

"Wish she'd let us wear the swords tonight," Mike sighed.

"Yeah. Hey, are my stockings straight?"

Mike bent down to check. "Ya know, you could just wear unseamed. You can't see 'em with the skirt." As she should know; he'd just hiked her skirt up so he could check.

"Yeah, but you never know," Sabrina chuckled. "Might get lucky."

***

"'I'm not wearing a tuxedo'," Tucker smirked. "Why do you say such stupid things, George? And right in front of her?"

"Shut the fuck up, bitch," George sighed.

"At least you don't have a tie."

He admitted sourly, "Yeah."

Actually, the formalwear Debbie, Sabrina, and the rest had designed, wasn't nearly as bad as a tuxedo. A gray shirt with a stand-up collar, reminding him of the Babylon 5 first-season uniform tunic, with a black long-tailed coat and pants, and polished black boots. It did need sleeve studs, and required white gloves - or so they all insisted - but there wasn't anything constricting his throat.

Tucker's version was very similar, except he'd been made to wear a skirt, which was almost to the floor and had side slits to the knee. Tucker also didn't get boots.

"So why aren't you wearing the pants with yours?"

Tucker shrugged. "Just as easy to do this."

"Easy? In THOSE shoes?"

Tucker smiled. "And, it makes me look hot for the guys."

"Shut the fuck UP, I don't want to hear it!"

***

"Valerie!"

Tucker sighed, then opened the coat and held the sides out, exposing the shoulder holster, which was empty. "I TOLD you," he complained.

"Then why are you wearing it?"

"It's part of the accessories?" Tucker reminded her. They'd bribed Sabrina to include the shoulder holster in the tailoring, and Debbie hadn't caught it until too late. "Hey Kath!" he said, grateful to change the subject, as Kathy made it out to the loading area. "No skirt?"

"I'd have to wear heels with it, and..." She shrugged, looking uncomfortable.

"You do look really good in heels and the skirt," Debbie told Kathy before Tucker could, so he just nodded agreement.

***

Lewis read off his card, "Valerie?"

A brunette looked at him and waved her white-gloved hand at him. "Lewis?" She wasn't bad-looking at all; but she was wearing what looked like a cross between a tuxedo and a women's military uniform. It should've looked worse than it did, but the way the top was cut, it showed off her hourglass waist.

"Guess we're paired up for the evening," he said. "So what's with the tuxedo thing?"

"Oh," she said, "new mess dress for the squadron."

"Squadron?"

She smiled at him. "Some of us aren't real fond of the 'sorority' label. Especially the guys," she smirked.

"You've got guys there?"

She nodded. "Yeah, it's kind of co-ed."

"Oh." Lewis didn't know what else to say to her, so he fell back to, "So what's your major?"

She smiled at him. "Dual major, electrical engineering and comp sci. If I don't chain myself in my room, they drag me out and dress me up and make me do things like tonight."

"Oh. You don't want to be here?"

"Oh," she demurred, "it's okay; it's just not my natural habitat. And they're right, I DO need to get out and be social occasionally. Even formal social," she added as she waved a hand at the room, which was full of men and women pairing up before tonight's formal dinner and dance. "What's your major?" she asked.
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Amanda had had to stay home that weekend and work on a project, which was why she'd signed up for Sunday morning breakfast crew. Dan half-grinned at her as she came into the kitchen. "Coffee?"

He pointed and said, "Already brewed."

"I gotta get her to make me one of those." Amanda sighed. "Before we graduate." There were plenty of timed coffeemakers on the market, but Valerie's would not only work on a timer, it would also work on some kind of network connection through the electrical wires, if you were close enough; and through Ethernet, if you had that running into your kitchen. Which of course they did. Either way, you could tell the thing to start when you got up, instead of hoping you'd get up when the timer started it.

***

"Let's see who's doing the 'Walk Of Shame' this morning," Valerie grinned nastily as she poured another mimosa for Amanda.

"Not you," Amanda pointed out, though Valerie was dressed like she'd been fucking Debbie the night before, in a long gown, matching robe, and heeled sandals.

"Dude, I just met him!" she complained.

"So? You're a slut."

"Not that much of a slut! Hiiiii," Valerie cooed, and Amanda turned to see George and some blonde come in. "How was your night?" she asked, as if they couldn't guess.
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Debbie and I weren't terribly friendly toward one another even after she'd managed to make two thirds of my junior year at high school survivable. But we could talk to each other and that is what we were doing, or more to the point we were going over patents.

"Val," she told me, "I know you like to create gadgets. And that makes our lives here easier. But almost anything you create should either be patented or copyrighted."
"But I feel like it's sort of cheating to make money by having fun,"I objected.

"You do like having extra spending money don't you she asked.

"Yeah," I admitted unwillingly.

"You know that you funded your own college fund don't you?" she asked as if to drive home a point.

"My mom and dad did that," I said.

"Do you know how much your dad is netting off from your gift registry program?" she asked.

"I never even thought to ask," I said, "I did it for fun."

"The point," Debbie said, nearly pulling her hair, "Is that that program is earning your dad more than enough to pay your tuition anywhere you wanted to go."

"That rat!" I said

"So," Debbie said with a note of triumph in her voice, "here is what I think you should do with your networked coffee maker."
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Anne wrote on Mon, 27 May 2013 20:33

"Do you know how much your dad is netting off from your gift registry program?" she asked.

"I never even thought to ask," I said, "I did it for fun."

"The point," Debbie said, nearly pulling her hair, "Is that that program is earning your dad more than enough to pay your tuition anywhere you wanted to go."



Hmm. The notion that Bill, in 1997, would apply for a patent (before releasing code, since releasing it before submitting the application invalidates it) for software, only three years after the disaster of State Street, strikes me as ... unlikely at best.

The notion that patenting software in 1997 somehow would lead to increased income strikes me as entirely ridiculous, for any entity smaller than the big-enough-for-antitrust-investigation bullies. Sell the (copyrighted) software. Make money. Sue people over patent, steal great gobs of their money. But to do the latter, you have to be wealthy enough to find "violators" and then to pay the lawyer. The troll business model happened later (divest of everything but patents, and make money doing nothing but suing), but the only use of patents in software before about 2000 was to keep someone else from competing with you. Well, still is, though CLS Bank holds out some hope for sanity.

The coffee maker bit is rather different. Presumably, if you're networking something like that in what, 1998 or so?, then you've done some interesting hardware and a compact network protocol that it can respond to, since you're not gonna fit a standard desktop chip from that era into a coffee maker (although there was a famous online coffee maker from the eighties, I think (MIT?), so it's questionable regardless).

Software patents: when you absolutely, positively, must have innovation by the twenty-second century (but not before).

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Amy! wrote on Mon, 27 May 2013 22:09

The coffee maker bit is rather different. Presumably, if you're networking something like that in what, 1998 or so?, then you've done some interesting hardware and a compact network protocol that it can respond to, since you're not gonna fit a standard desktop chip from that era into a coffee maker (although there was a famous online coffee maker from the eighties, I think (MIT?), so it's questionable regardless).

Well, As of late 1997, Tuck and most of the gang are juniors. Meaning that the "after graduation" timeline would begin around mid-1999.

RFC 2434 came out on April 1st, 1998, that is, late junior year. I consider highly likely that Tuck did not design a bespoke protocol, but implemented the one in the RFC. There would be more than one year to design and work out the kinks.

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Amy! wrote on Mon, 27 May 2013 18:09

The coffee maker bit is rather different. Presumably, if you're networking something like that in what, 1998 or so?, then you've done some interesting hardware and a compact network protocol that it can respond to, since you're not gonna fit a standard desktop chip from that era into a coffee maker (although there was a famous online coffee maker from the eighties, I think (MIT?), so it's questionable regardless).


Dunno about the ethernet part, but the powerline bit is *trivial* application of the BSR X-10 technology that'd been around since at least the early 80s (I had an X-10 controller that plugged into the cassette port on my TRS-80 Model III)

Possibly not patentable, but there's at least *some* novelty in building it in to the coffee pot instead of plugging the pot into an appliance controller module (about the size of two packs of cigarettes stacked on top of each other).

If nothing else, built in would let the clock and timer run in parallel with the X-10 gear. So if you *didn't* send an explicit ON or OFF to the coffee pot's address, it'd switch on via the timer.

X-10 protocol has 16 "house" codes A-P, and 16 "unit" codes 1-16. Control units are usually set to a house code and have sixteen buttons for turning the units on & off. Light modules can incorporate a dimmer function and there are a pair of buttons for running the brightness up & down (you select the unit, then start tapping the up or down button). They also have dedicated controller for controlling a single unit. Some of those are used for alarm function. Something open or closes the wires hooked to the module, and it turns on anything with the house code and unit code it's set for.

Pretty simple and old tech in 97. Heck, almost certainly out of patent by then so Tuck wouldn't have to license anything.
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It could also be something similar to Ethernet-over-powerline, being much bigger (more addresses, bigger packets) than X10. I wouldn't put it past Tuck to allow adding protocol & hardware-interface modules to the system as they develop 'in the wild'.

*grins* X10/ether-over-power/Ethernet+RJ45/802.11g laundry room!


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Anne wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 01:33

"Val," {Debbie} told me, "I know you like to create gadgets. And that makes our lives here easier. But almost anything you create should either be patented or copyrighted."
"But I feel like it's sort of cheating to make money by having fun," I objected.

The error in Anne's thinking here is that Tuck would object to cheating to get ahead in the real world.

Now, what could happen is, Tucker wouldn't want to go through the hassle, perhaps. But that's what Debbie's there for, and good at.

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Ellen Hayes wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 15:03

It could also be something similar to Ethernet-over-powerline, being much bigger (more addresses, bigger packets) than X10. I wouldn't put it past Tuck to allow adding protocol & hardware-interface modules to the system as they develop 'in the wild'.

*grins* X10/ether-over-power/Ethernet+RJ45/802.11g laundry room!


Ellen



I don't see Tuck re-inventing the wheel. At least not for the *first* pass. Which is why I figured he'd use X-10 for the powerline protocol. Smile

Mentioning the laundry room on the other hand... being able to tell the washers and dryers what room the load is for and having them signal if a load is done (or goes out of balance!) would be a great innovation.

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Brooke wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 04:29

I don't see Tuck re-inventing the wheel. At least not for the *first* pass. Which is why I figured he'd use X-10 for the powerline protocol. Smile


Entirely true; I was thinking about v.3 or so. Also, going to the work to allow multiple protocols just seems like sense for the v.2 version; it allows one to separate the functions.

Webserver + webcam would be kind of interesting for a dryer, or a front-load washer.

Brooke wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 04:29

Mentioning the laundry room on the other hand... being able to tell the washers and dryers what room the load is for and having them signal if a load is done (or goes out of balance!) would be a great innovation.


"What?" Tucker complains. "Why is everyone looking at me?"

Kathy said, before anyone else could, "Because you're sitting around like a normal person instead of going into the lab and inventing this which'll make us all rich, duh."

Tucker huffs and gets up. "Fine, but I need a new washer and dryer to experiment on," he looks at Lisa until he gets a nod, "and I'm excused from chores until I get it."

"Why do you need a NEW washer and dryer?" Pam asks.

"Duh!" Tucker throws over his shoulder as he walks out. "ALWAYS mount a scratch monkey."

Pam looks around in confusion, and notices the guys smirking. "What the hell does THAT mean?"

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You actually made me laugh out load. I don't think I've heard that phrase since about the time the story is set in or a bit before. Smile
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Tue, 28 May 2013 19:03

It could also be something similar to Ethernet-over-powerline, being much bigger (more addresses, bigger packets) than X10. I wouldn't put it past Tuck to allow adding protocol & hardware-interface modules to the system as they develop 'in the wild'.

*grins* X10/ether-over-power/Ethernet+RJ45/802.11g laundry room!


802.11g started appearing in 2003, by which time most of the gang should be thinking about graduation from college. But 802.11a/b would be available (albeit expensive) during the gang's college years.

And, anyway, the real question... would Tuck implement the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol? There are some good points about it; one of them is that they could control the coffee pot by using EMACS.


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Sir Lee wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 02:38

802.11g started appearing in 2003, by which time most of the gang should be thinking about graduation from college. But 802.11a/b would be available (albeit expensive) during the gang's college years.

Yeah, but having a modular architecture would allow Tuck to provide updated hardware to the rest of them later on.

Sir Lee wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 02:38

And, anyway, the real question... would Tuck implement the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol? There are some good points about it; one of them is that they could control the coffee pot by using EMACS.

"Well, DUH! It's got an RFC! What ELSE would I use?!"

Of course, I don't think it would work for X10. But meh, they can use a subset for X10.

Ellen
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 19:20

"Well, DUH! It's got an RFC! What ELSE would I use?!"


Allow me to point out http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149 & http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2549.txt

Just because there's an RFC doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea.

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I am wondering if Tuck will dress more as Tuck or Val as an adult?
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Brooke wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 23:41

Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 19:20

"Well, DUH! It's got an RFC! What ELSE would I use?!"


Allow me to point out http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149 & http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2549.txt

Just because there's an RFC doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea.

You are reading the situation backwards.

The point of standards is not implementing them "just because." The point is, as long as you are doing this stuff, you should at least consider following the standard so there is future interoperability with other implementations.

In this day and age, data transport by carrier pigeon may seem a bad idea. But, if you happen to find yourself in a situation where you want to do it, implementing it in a way that follows RFC1149 might be a good idea.

Tuck wanted to control the coffee pot over the network; there was an RFC about exactly that concept. So implementing the RFC is better than creating one's bespoke protocol; that way, there is at least a *chance* that your product can be interoperable with a similar product being independently developed by another team. If you don't follow the existing standard, the chance is zero.

Besides, there's the geek cred angle. The Bergen Linux user group got some geek cred by implementing IPoAC, and that's not even something you can sell on ThinkGeek.


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stanman wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 23:11

I am wondering if Tuck will dress more as Tuck or Val as an adult?

Unlike transvestites, I expect Tucker would "dress appropriately" rather than adhere to a strict gender-clothing standard and separation.
The difference in hiking clothing, for instance, is sizing, colors, and a possibly-significant price increase. Since clothing isn't 'interesting' to a geek, there's no good reason to use 'female' hiking clothing (unless necessary, like boots for size).

Conversely, Tucker's hips and waist (and pelvis) are basically female-shaped, and so female pants (and possibly shorts) would be a good idea in any mode. And TRUST ME, if you have breasts, you will want to wear a bra, especially if moving fast.

The exception is "high-formality" clothing; Tucker has already expresses a severe dislike of ties, and would rather wear heels and makeup than a choky tight collar and tie.


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I expect that Tucker will wear clothes that fit. It will not matter whether they are 'women's' clothes or 'men's' clothes. The fit will be the thing. I do however see a strong move toward Val. I think that when Tucker really evaluates it herm will see that 'Val' is more acceptable. So except to herm guy friends who have known herm as a 'boy' for most of their lives this will not be a problem.

It may be a problem at school where s/he was known as a 'boy' and persecuted for looking like s/he was trying to be female. However college should eliminate most of this problem. The senior year is the issue. How will Tucker handle that? One way is for herm to enroll in a local community college.
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Yeah, if you look at it...
- Tuck has a lot of experience presenting as Val
- Tuck is actually _comfortable_ presenting as Val
- Tuck found that people are nicer when they talk to Val than to Tuck-attempting-to-look-male
- All the people Tuck care about are by now aware of Val's existence
- Scientifically speaking, Tuck may be as "female" as "male"

So, in the end, there is precious little reason to keep presenting as "Eugene" after high school graduation. Better to go full-time Val.

At this point, the main reasons that keep Tuck tied up to the "Eugene" identity are:
1. The fact that coming out as Valerie at school would likely be disastrous; (true)
2. The belief that some of the people who are important to him would resent the move; (partially true; I don't think either Sarah or Brian are quite ready to accept a full-time Val, and possibly not some of the Rat Boyz, but they would come through eventually. Bill and Mike may not be crazy about it but would accept it, and Susan and Amy would accept it quite easily, as would the Pack.)
3. Tuck's own sense of losing some part of their self-identity by "letting go" of Eugene. (almost certainly mistaken, but feelings aren't rational)

Problem #1 will solve itself with graduation; problem #2 tends to improve with time. Problem #3 Tuck has to work out by themself, possibly with Sheila's help. But Tuck does not really trust Sheila, which is hampering therapy.


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
Re: After graduation [message #7929] Mon, 03 June 2013 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Formaldehyde, ammonia and nitric acid? No, Tuck, you're not making RDX here."
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mkemp wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 16:07

"Formaldehyde, ammonia and nitric acid? No, Tuck, you're not making RDX here."


"Nylon, sulfuric acid and nitric acid? No, you aren't making C2 either."
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"Christ! You assholes never let me have any fun! It's not like I'd be doing it in the residence!" Tucker stomped off, the three inch heels he was breaking in making a loud clatter across the dining room.
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Tuck! That is not the proper use of ammonia, corn syrup, and flour!
The ATF frowns on making FE explosives!
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With Tuck's skills, he could become a computer programmer/hacker as well as be a chef, teach survival, maybe even become a privvate eye.
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"Did you hear that dimwit in class?"
"Yeah; a few rounds shy of a full magazine, that one."

[Updated on: Fri, 07 June 2013 20:13]

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stanman wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 14:22

With Tuck's skills, he could become a computer programmer/hacker as well as be a chef, teach survival, maybe even become a private eye.

Val is a nonpareil programmer/penetration tester who might be willing to do DDR[0] for selected clients. I don't think she has the temperament to be a chef (dealing with the business aspects of a restaurant's menu and always making the same things under time pressure) or the teacher of a random bunch of students. I don't think that either Valerie or Mike would want to put up with the licensing requirements of being a Licensed Professional Investigator, though they might be prevailed upon to do favors for friends.

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I have this idea of the Rat Boyz and part of the Pack going into business together with a "total security solutions" portfolio: computer security, alarm & surveillance systems, rent-a-cop training, defensive driving classes, the works.


Don't call me Shirley. You will surely make me surly.
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Sir Lee wrote on Fri, 07 June 2013 19:20

I have this idea of the Rat Boyz and part of the Pack going into business together with a "total security solutions" portfolio: computer security, alarm & surveillance systems, rent-a-cop training, defensive driving classes, the works.


Important note: this entire thread is NOT CANON, which means it's just a fanfic of mine written around what might possibly happen after graduation. I put it together just to explore what fun, outrageous and comical things the gang might get into. Ellen's contributions are non official and in the spirit of cooperation with my silliness.

That said, I could see most of the gang doing 'security solutions' stuff but not things like rent-a-cop or defensive driving training because they'd require a lot of staff and facilities.
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I think that they (Tuck and friends) would, if they could, go into the field of security testers. That is if they get smart and contact companies before they perform the security test...! After all getting busted while making an unauthorized test would then cause them to no longer have that option...

This has become a rather long and collaborative FF but I've enjoyed reading it and contributing where I'm able.

Oh and I wonder why (other than that explosives are dangerous fun) Tuck wants to make explosives.

To the NSA or other Govt snoops, This is fiction and discussion of fiction NOT actual bombs anywhere!
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Anne wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 06:27

Oh and I wonder why (other than that explosives are dangerous fun) Tuck wants to make explosives.


I think it's highly likely that he's validating receipes for his own version of the Army's TM 31-210 Improvised Munitions (http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/june2007/imhv3.pdf).

The Anarchist's cookbook (http://www.freeinfosociety.com/pdfs/misc/anarchistcookbook2000.pdf) is way out of date.

Ain't the Internet fun?
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Anne wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 06:27


To the NSA or other Govt snoops, This is fiction and discussion of fiction NOT actual bombs anywhere!


Based on this week's revelations...I think the IP/Mac addresses logging into this site are now forever sitting in the NSA's databanks, waiting for DOJ authorization to dig into who we are ... Sad

They'd probably want to know if Tuck is a real person for recruiting. Laughing

[Updated on: Mon, 10 June 2013 21:35]

Re: After graduation [message #7951] Mon, 10 June 2013 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anne wrote on Sat, 08 June 2013 14:27

Oh and I wonder why (other than that explosives are dangerous fun) Tuck wants to make explosives.


There need be no other reason. And, done properly, it's not that dangerous. Remember Bill Tucker's toes; Valerie does.

Ellen

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Ellen Hayes wrote on Mon, 10 June 2013 18:35



There need be no other reason. And, done properly, it's not that dangerous. Remember Bill Tucker's toes; Valerie does.

Ellen




I know that explosives handled correctly are no more dangerous than a rifle or a pistol. But a good many people are (if possible) more afraid of explosives than they are of firearms.

And Yep I just bet that the NSA has us all on their watch list somehow. I've often wondered how people who can be terrified of large corporations can so easily swallow the idea that large govt is always beneficent

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"Beneficent?" The behavior of corporations and governments is very much like that of single-celled organisms. Corporations are motivated by money; governments are motivated by control. Over time they all evolve a 'corporate culture' that's highly resistant to change. Corporations have no ethical or moral sense; governments talk themselves out of such things by thinking of the greater good.

Cynical? Yeah, I'm pretty cynical. Humans in groups are stupid and easily led. ("Rember the average IQ is only 100, and half are stupider than that.")
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Anne wrote on Tue, 11 June 2013 04:52

But a good many people are (if possible) more afraid of explosives than they are of firearms.

"A good many people" would best serve their country, their species, and the entire ecosystem of the planet, if they were converted into fertilizer.

Ellen
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Have I mentioned before that I am a former NSA employee myself? I worked in translation, codebreaking and sigint back in the early 70s. Smile

Oh, and drawing cartoons in Top Secret logbooks. Smile
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Tue, 11 June 2013 09:12

Anne wrote on Tue, 11 June 2013 04:52

But a good many people are (if possible) more afraid of explosives than they are of firearms.

"A good many people" would best serve their country, their species, and the entire ecosystem of the planet, if they were converted into fertilizer.

Ellen



Soylent mulch, Long Pig potting soil, Lecter's special fertilizer for fava beans....
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New marketing for Lecter's special Fertilizer... New and Improved Lecter's Select Organic Fertilizer.

I could see them getting into the Safe Ride type of program.

Goddess Bless You All

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