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X-10 [message #7903] Mon, 27 May 2013 23:42 Go to next message
Brooke  is currently offline Brooke
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The talk of the remote controlled coffe pot over in Tuckerspawn reminded me of one of the big annoyyances with X-10 col stuff for only moderately geeky folks like me.

I have one of those dual window fans in a window in my apartment. I use it to extract air which comes in via other windows. This is necessary because in *mid-winter* with the heat turned off, I've had temps over 80 unless I have the fan going.

The silly thing has a thermostat of sorts. That is, a dial that you can adjust to set how hot things have to be before it turns on (not calibrated, but hey).

Thing is, since it's located *in* the fan it's of little use.

I *really* wish someone would build one of those with X-10 built-in and a *seperate* control module. I'd put that in the living room (with me and the computers). And set it to switch on/off depending on temp in that room rather than the one it ois in (or all too often the temp *outside, since it is sitting in a window).

Heck, I'd settle for it responding to a regular X-10 controller as if it was a dimmable light. That'd given me on/off and different fan speeds.

I've tried using appliance modules, but they can't handle something about the load and die. Sad

Re: X-10 [message #7907] Wed, 29 May 2013 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ellen Hayes  is currently offline Ellen Hayes
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With my limited understanding of X10, it doesn't seem that hard to do. I don't know about light-dimming versus electric motor, though; I have a moral objection to resistor-driven speed controls. *grins*

Perhaps back issues of an electronics magazine could help, and you could build it?

I'd offer, but pesky superheroes blew up my lab a few years ago, and I haven't been able to rebuild...

Ellen
Re: X-10 [message #7912] Wed, 29 May 2013 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brooke  is currently offline Brooke
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 03:36

With my limited understanding of X10, it doesn't seem that hard to do. I don't know about light-dimming versus electric motor, though; I have a moral objection to resistor-driven speed controls. *grins*

Perhaps back issues of an electronics magazine could help, and you could build it?

I'd offer, but pesky superheroes blew up my lab a few years ago, and I haven't been able to rebuild...


Well, I never was that good at building hardware (as opposed to putting pre-built pieces together, as in assembling or upgrading a PC).

And in this case it pretty much would require building stuff because (given the failures of the appliance modules) I couldn't just cannibalize stuff from existing controllers. *sigh*

And it really would be a design that would sell at least somewhat well I suspect. Especially the "thermostat isn't at fan" part.

But that'd require intelligence and risk taking by the manufacturers.

The odds of *that* are easy to determine. Examine the box for one of these fans that are built to be mounted in a window. They have a warning not to place them in a window.

I know why, of course. Too expensive to double insulate them, so if rain blows in they'll short out.

Re: X-10 [message #7919] Fri, 31 May 2013 07:15 Go to previous message
Ellen Hayes  is currently offline Ellen Hayes
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Brooke wrote on Thu, 30 May 2013 03:36

Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 03:36

With my limited understanding of X10, it doesn't seem that hard to do. I don't know about light-dimming versus electric motor, though; I have a moral objection to resistor-driven speed controls. *grins*

Perhaps back issues of an electronics magazine could help, and you could build it?


Well, I never was that good at building hardware (as opposed to putting pre-built pieces together, as in assembling or upgrading a PC).

And in this case it pretty much would require building stuff because (given the failures of the appliance modules) I couldn't just cannibalize stuff from existing controllers. *sigh*


Well, you can be a Windows-User about it, or you could subcontract it, or you could be a Real Geek and learn something new in your copious free time.

Tucker, of course, would build it.


Ellen
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