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Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7958] Wed, 12 June 2013 08:25 Go to next message
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"Where's George?" Mike asked.

Val shook her head. "He's still fluting his armor."

"He is NOT going to get that done before the Faire."

"Yeah, but try telling HIM that."

***

"It's just not economically viable right now," Debbie repeated. She could see the appeal of a modern, robotically controlled, chainmail-making machine that actually welded the rings together, but it wasn't worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars it would take to build.

Plus, no matter how good Valerie and Mike and the rest of them were, it wasn't going to go perfectly the first few times; which meant it would cost even more than originally planned. She'd learned THAT lesson well, dealing with them and some of their other 'great ideas'.

***

"Pulse off sensors on the back, pulse-oximeter on the left hand, three or four temp sensors scattered around, including dual axial. Skin galvanometer, to check for sweating, kind of; but I'm not sure how useful that'll be, since it sort of pegs when you're only sweating a little."

"And you're putting this in the armor. The MEDIEVAL armor."

Kathy protested, "They said it wouldn't be that hard! They just have to make sure the battery and the radio thing are well-protected."

Debbie rubbed her face and looked pained.

"I wish they'd let me put in a butterfly cath, so I could get blood samples easier," Kathy sighed, but she knew that wasn't going to happen. "And arterial blood gases; I bet those'd be interesting." She knew better than to mention the small internal thermometer she really wanted, to better read core temperatures; because there was one place that was easy to get to and wouldn't interfere with speaking, and nobody but Valerie would ever admit to allowing anything in there.
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7959] Wed, 12 June 2013 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"See? I TOLD you we needed a CNC milling machine."

Debbie looked at the sword which Valerie had just produced. Or, more accurately, the sword blade; it was still missing a lot of pieces. "I thought you'd make a katana."

"I don't think it's worth the curvature. I mean, either we get really big bar stock and mill away more than half of it," and the thought of the expense and waste made Debbie cringe, "yeah; or we shape it then heat it and bend it. That's probably the way to go, but I don't know how to do that yet. Not easily."

"And so, how m-"

"About a hundred-fifty, counting tool head depreciation and raw steel cost; but not the initial investment or depreciation of the entire machine. We could do titanium, but you wouldn't believe what they want for the bar stock."

Debbie would; she'd seen the prices when they were doing armor.

"That's for the straight blade," Valerie reminded her. "We'd have to build something to do the heating and bending, and I don't know about that."

"Yeah, but samurai stuff sells a lot better than European." Debbie started to tap her fingers. "How much for the hilt and things?"

"'Bout another twenty to fifty bucks, depending on what you use."

"Hmmmm." Debbie needed to play with a spreadsheet...

***

"No," Dan grinned at Josh, "what's REALLY funny is watching them reloading pistol and rifle ammo, while they all watch 'Sex And The City'. They've hit about three THOUSAND rounds per episode."

"Three THOUS- What do you need that much ammo for?"

"Going for NRA's National Match this year." He knew they weren't going to do THAT well; they didn't have that much time to practice because they were also taking classes. Nor would anyone in charge of money let them spend five or six thousand dollars on a really good rifle. And their range was a little on the short side. But they should do well in their age class.

***

Rob asked, "So how come you don't do gaming Friday nights too?"

Mike shook his head. "Can't; some of the players like to dance, at least one night a weekend." He shrugged. "Sometimes it's Friday, sometimes it's Saturday; but playing Saturdays means we can go all night and then up to Sunday afternoon. If we're not doing something else." The nice thing about having some of their own facilities was that the usual business hours didn't have to apply.

***

"Gaming's in Conf B," Valerie pointed, "Dancing's in the Main M- Hall," she corrected herself as she pointed the other direction. Amanda had to grin; Mike and them kept trying to call it a 'mess', and then anyone who'd spent time CLEANING it had a fit.

Of course, the three geeks were here for the gaming; Amanda would bet money that even if someone talked them into going into the dance area, they wouldn't dance unless they were seriously drunk.

***

"Oh, yeah," the girl smiled, "you'd be amazed what you can get if you have the right dishes. That one's," she pointed, "locked on Galaxy Ten-R, which is C-band as well as K-U. Forty-eight different transponders, wh-"

"What's a transponder?"

The girl smiled, but Jake realized he shouldn't have asked if he didn't want to look stupid.
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7960] Wed, 12 June 2013 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Debbie," I tried to explain, "I need to make my own double base."

"The ATF will have a cow if you do that!"

"Yeah, I know but even with reloads I need to practice more. And we don't have enough money to pay range fees as well as loads for me to practice. It might not be a lot but I think I can cut the price of a load enough to be practical considering that everyone else would like to practice more."

"So who will apply for the license to make explosives?"

"I was hoping you would do that. Dealing with bureaucrats gives me the hives."
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7963] Sun, 16 June 2013 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sidenote: I know people who make swords, real ones. A cheap, sometimes free, source of steel is leaf springs from old automobiles and trucks. They usually have nickel and/or chromium content so they polish up really nice and they take a temper well, actually easier than the old time high carbon steel that medieval smiths worked with.

I knew one swordsmith in Arizona who made blades of such quality that they would sing when held up in the wind. Of course, he had almost 30 years experience at smithing.

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/bad-leaf-springs-make-good-swords

Then again, bar stock of a known composition isn't all that expensive but four or five times as much as spring steel from a junkyard.

Most but not all leaf springs from Ford and Chevy cars and trucks is 5160 chromium-carbon-silicon steel, almost perfect for swords. Old time smiths likely used something like 1095 steel, very high carbon so it takes a good edge but more brittle and finicky about tempering. 9260 Manganese-silicon-carbon alloy can also be found in springs and is much like the 5160 but even tougher!

Ancient smiths, the guys who invented steel swords in Persia to India, probably used the nickel containing native iron found in Afghanistan and Pakistan. You didn't have to smelt it. Nice and springy and rust resistant but not too easy to put an edge on and does not temper well. Still, it was better than bronze.

Tungsten steel might be even better for a sword but you need a professional level shop to work with the stuff as it will eat your cheap grinding wheels and it is a pure bastard to temper. High silicon steels are also possible, they use those to make bandsaw blades but they are even more difficult to work with.

Stainless steel, very high chromium content, is fine for knives but too brittle for swords.
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7967] Sun, 16 June 2013 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Erin Halfelven wrote on Sat, 15 June 2013 22:03

Sidenote: I know people who make swords, real ones. A cheap, sometimes free, source of steel is leaf springs from old automobiles and trucks. They usually have nickel and/or chromium content so they polish up really nice and they take a temper well, actually easier than the old time high carbon steel that medieval smiths worked with.

I knew one swordsmith in Arizona who made blades of such quality that they would sing when held up in the wind. Of course, he had almost 30 years experience at smithing.

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/bad-leaf-springs-make-good-swords

Then again, bar stock of a known composition isn't all that expensive but four or five times as much as spring steel from a junkyard.

Most but not all leaf springs from Ford and Chevy cars and trucks is 5160 chromium-carbon-silicon steel, almost perfect for swords. Old time smiths likely used something like 1095 steel, very high carbon so it takes a good edge but more brittle and finicky about tempering. 9260 Manganese-silicon-carbon alloy can also be found in springs and is much like the 5160 but even tougher!


A friend who did both swordsmithing and gunsmithing had an interesting source for steel.

Broken headsaw(?) blades from a sawmill. One of the "broken" pieces I saw in his shop once was about 18-24 inches wide (with the saw teeth being about six inches of that (had teeth on both sides)) and about 5 feet long. And it was fairly thick metal. He'd cut the rough blade out and then be able to grind and polish it down to a finished blade.
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7969] Sun, 16 June 2013 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Tuck, I know you've been working out all the details on your CAD program, but making a Galil or MP-44 chambered for the Remington SPC is a bad idea. Even if it is semi-automatic."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Galil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.8_mm_Remington_SPC
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7971] Mon, 17 June 2013 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Where's Val?" Debbie asked.

George made a derogatory hand gesture. "In Deep Hack on the bus."

Debbie made a face. "Did you try getting her off?"

"Fuck no! She bites when she's in Deep Hack, Deb! You know that." He shrugged. "I just put it in the garage and hooked it up to shore power an' Ethernet, an' got some of the blankets out."

"How's the bathroom in there?" Possibly the smartest thing they had ever done, they'd put a tiny truck-camper toilet/sink/shower unit into the left rear of their bus. Dealing with the resulting sewage wasn't fun, but the number of times Debbie hadn't had to demand a gas station (and then use a gas station bathroom) or clump of bushes was well worth it.

George shrugged. "Probably needs to be dumped in two days, but who knows with her."

"True." She shrugged. "And you locked the garage door, right?"

"Riiiiight," he assured her.

Debbie shrugged again. "Nothing we can do, then. Oh, did you tell Mike?"

"Sent him an alert."

***

"Two compartment backpack, for school," Tucker said.

"Oooookay." Mike still looked skeptical.

"Top one has books, bottom one has ice and food. Or drinks."

"Okay, so, what happens when the ice melts?"

Tucker grinned, because that, or the solution thereunto, was the clever part. "It goes into the icewater bladder, which can be drained or drunk, or, hell, even recycled. All sealed with caulk, and it's really thick plumbing tubing."

"How much does it weigh?"

"'Bout two pounds without the ice and water."

"That's a lot of caulk."

"I didn't want it to leak."

"Point."

***

"Where's Val?"

Mike shook his head, looking disgusted. "So she's getting ready, right? Damp from a shower, did her makeup, hair still in curlers, got that expensive underwear on, stockings and shoes... then she goes, 'Oh well SHIT!', just like that, and now she's in Deep Hack in front of her workstation. In lingerie."

Amanda snickered. "Didja get a picture?"

"Fuck no!" Mike protested. "She'd pull my intestines out!"

***

"No, we have to go all the way and get class A licenses," Mike countered.

"Why? We're not going to be pulling trailers!"

"Well, we might. But mostly because, with the motorcycle endorsement, combined with the class B, would make all our driver's licenses say 'B M'."

Debbie glared at Mike. "You are really, really puerile to think of something like that."

He pointed an accusing finger at her. "I know what that word means, wench. And yeah; but I've got George to remind me if I start getting too mature about things."

"Oh god," Debbie sighed.
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7973] Mon, 17 June 2013 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hated dealing with finances. But the only way that I could justify my newest idea was to create a projection of cost and income. I really thought that we needed to lease an industrial space for our armor shop so that we wouldn't be using living space or space where I could be setting up a beowulf cluster for running computing experiments.

Therefore after scouring the various real estate agents and the classified ads in all the papers that were published in the area I was sitting down to run the numbers. I decided I hated math after a while. Mainly because it looked like I couldn't justify a space that was large enough to handle the armor shop for what we were currently earning from making armor.

I called Debbie in and showed her what I had projected. We needed the space, for a certain value of need, but we couldn't justify it unless everyone committed more of our very limited time toward producing armor. She agreed with my conclusions and then suggested that she would approach the other people who lived in our 'house' with the idea and see if she could sell the idea.

I did a happy dance. If Debbie thought something was a good idea to do she would sell it even if everyone else really didn't totally agree with it.
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7975] Mon, 17 June 2013 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"A foundry, huh?" Dan asked.

"Yeah."

"Do you think we could do bronze castings? We could make all kinds of interesting stuff. Maybe even cast stuff for that bunch of sculptors."

"If we do that I wonder how hard it would be to cast muzzle loading cannons? There's probably a good market for them with the black powder era reinactors."

"Go ahead and call it what it really was: the War of Yankee Aggression."
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7981] Tue, 18 June 2013 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"You know what might be fun?"

"Oh, God, Val; I'm afraid to ask."

"Unicycle polo! No, wait! Don't-"

Amanda grabbed Valerie's arm and started shoving her toward the pool. Sabrina joined in and the two of them dumped a protesting Valerie in.

Afterward Amanda asked, "Why were you helping, by the way?"

"Whatever it was, she probably deserved it. I swear, that girl's the closest thing to a human random number generator that I've ever heard of."
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7982] Tue, 18 June 2013 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Val looked sadly at the pool that now had a thin rime of ice on it. Swimming season was over for the year unless she wanted to join the polar bear club....
Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7984] Tue, 18 June 2013 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ellen Hayes wrote on Wed, 12 June 2013 05:25

"Where's George?" Mike asked.

Val shook her head. "He's still fluting his armor."

"He is NOT going to get that done before the Faire."

"Yeah, but try telling HIM that."

***
Kathy protested, "They said it wouldn't be that hard! They just have to make sure the battery and the radio thing are well-protected."
Debbie rubbed her face and looked pained.



"Hey George! Check this out! Shake my hand!", said Mike.
"What?", replied George, as he walked up.
George knew something was up looking warily at Mike, but his curiosity got the best of him, as Mike held out a gloved right hand. This looked like the old buzzer gag, but he didn't see a buzzer. George took it. Then Mike slapped his left gloved hand behind his hand, George immediately fell, convulsing to the ground.

"See! Stun gloves!... we can hook this up to the armor's power supply!", Mike explained.

Reference: http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Projects/Stun-Gun/Stun-Gun.htm

[Updated on: Tue, 18 June 2013 16:29]

Re: Yet more snippets from the Chickville Bates Motel [message #7986] Fri, 21 June 2013 20:05 Go to previous message
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Debbie had managed to book me as a DJ for every weekend for six weeks in a row. The income would be nice but I wanted to do other things.

Besides for some reason I'd picked up a couple of fan boys who seemed to be intent on packing my gear in to whatever place I was playing. They made me so nervous I was about to start wearing the stun gloves Mike had put together....
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