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Happy New Year one and all

One possible idea for a Halloween costume for Valerie is Glinda the Good Witch
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1508] Wed, 31 December 2003 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike the Younger wrote on Wed, 31 December 2003 14:02

Happy New Year one and all

One possible idea for a Halloween costume for Valerie is Glinda the Good Witch


What, you don't think Tucker would like an army of flying monkeys??!

Twisted Evil


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Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1509] Wed, 31 December 2003 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike the Younger wrote on Wed, 31 December 2003 06:02

Happy New Year one and all

One possible idea for a Halloween costume for Valerie is Glinda the Good Witch


My first reaction was that really didn't seem to fit with my perception of Valerie- which led to me spending the morning at work thinking about just how to cast everybody in Oz with the Tuck crew. (Digression: I think Tuck is more likely to be a fan of the books than the movie.)
Like I said, I don't see Val as Glinda. I would probably put Sabrina in that role. I can't get around using Tuck as Dorothy, in my mind. However, I would actually use Val as Dorothy and Eugene as the Wizard. Debbie would perhaps unfairly get the Wicked Witch of the West role. That would also bring in Lisa for a cameo as the Wicked Witch of the East, whose only job is to get smashed by a flying house. The rest of the core group would need to be Mike, Kim, and Jill, IMO. I think that would best fit with Mike as the Tin Woodsman, Jill as the Cowardly Lion, and Kim as the Scarecrow. If we want to take it that far, Kelly would get stuck in the Toto outfit, and probably be quite unhappy with the job.
That's as far as I've gotten in my thinking. Anybody have any further ideas, or is this just a sign of how boring my half day at work for the holiday was?
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1511] Wed, 31 December 2003 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=rachel.greenham wrote on Wed, 31 December 2003 12:03

What, you don't think Tucker would like an army of flying monkeys??!

Twisted Evil
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Sad Alas, Rachel. The only monkeys your comment ellicits is a portrait of Kipling's old King Louie and his court
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1512] Wed, 31 December 2003 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike the Younger wrote on Wed, 31 December 2003 20:05

rachel.greenham wrote on Wed, 31 December 2003 12:03



What, you don't think Tucker would like an army of flying monkeys??!

Twisted Evil



Sad Alas, Rachel. The only monkeys your comment ellicits is a portrait of Kipling's old King Louie and his court


The wicked witch of the west sends an army of winged monkeys out after Dorothy!

They're so cool...


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Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1513] Thu, 01 January 2004 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was thinking of Kelly as Dorothy. She has just started down her own Yellow Brick Road. Valerie is Kelly's Big Sister and so is already montoring Kelly along her journey, much the same way Glinda advised Dorothy.

PS Flying monkeys?!? Hide the bananas! Quick!
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1514] Fri, 02 January 2004 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i kinda see mike as the wizard... becouse, tuck has been on this whole quest by himself, he really hasn't talked with mike about it untill very recently. and even then, tuck realyl didn't tell him much, probably becouse tuck himself doesn't know that much. but i can see him meeting all the other freinds...

kim is the cowardly lion, and mike is supposed to be helping her get over that... then there's the jill, who needs a heart, and tuck's helping with that, but mike's work would go a long ways to heling her i think... then there's the scarcrow, i'm not sure who i would put there... george comes to mind, if anyone needs a brain, it's him (HEE HEE and he worked on a farm Very Happy ). i'd keep kelly as toto mostly becouse it is to CUTE!!

glenda could probably be kathy, she's tall, and the leader second to deb, so deb would be the west witch, lisa the east...

who does that leave? i don't know, what you think? if we had standardised pictures for what all the characters in tuck look like we could do a fan art thingy of them... oh well...
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1515] Fri, 02 January 2004 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok I have to ask this, who would be Ozma, The Clockwork Soldier, and The Patchwork Girl just to name a few other characters. Also keep in mind acording to the authors works not the hollywood story Dorothy is around 8 instead of 16, but that dosen't make this any less fun. Wink
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1516] Fri, 02 January 2004 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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KellyDahl wrote on Fri, 02 January 2004 11:03

Ok I have to ask this, who would be Ozma, The Clockwork Soldier, and The Patchwork Girl just to name a few other characters. Also keep in mind acording to the authors works not the hollywood story Dorothy is around 8 instead of 16, but that dosen't make this any less fun. Wink

Well, if we start adding characters from the other books, Valerie is Ozma. Period. End of Discussion. This is not, in my mind, open to debate. (No, OtherEric, go ahead and tell us how you really feel. Smile)
By clockwork soldier, do you mean Tik-Tok? If so, Dan might fit in that role fairly well. Book could be the Wogglebug, I think. George would probably be a decent Jack Pumpkinhead. I really can't think of who would be Scraps- I never really liked the patchwork girl character. Kim feels like the best choice, but I think she would need to a more important character. Brian could be the Gump- he'll go along with things if they need to be done, but normally doesn't want to get involved.
I find it interesting that I can't seem to place Travis anywhere in the cast- he just doesn't seem to want to play this game.
So, anybody else have ideas?
Tuck Characters in Oz [message #1980] Tue, 15 June 2004 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure how I missed this thread; I was off the computer in December/January, but should have noticed it later...

KellyDahl wrote on Fri, 02 January 2004 11:03

Also keep in mind acording to the authors works not the Hollywood story Dorothy is around 8 instead of 16...


Denslowe drew her that young, but Neill didn't -- not that she's anywhere close to 16. Baum (and then Thompson) did seem to write her as an older girl after her return than she was in the original Wizard book, now that I think about it.

As I recall, in one of the later books Ozma has to intervene to prevent Dorothy from growing to her real age (at least while she's in Oz) after some contact with the outside world.

(It might be mentioned, though, that in the days before radio a rural Kansas girl was likely to lack sophistication well into high school.)

OtherEric wrote on Fri, 02 January 2004 12:41

Well, if we start adding characters from the other books, Valerie is Ozma. Period. End of Discussion. This is not, in my mind, open to debate.


That would seem to set up Eugene as Tip -- not a bad thought.

Kelly'd make a good Trot, I think. (James as Cap'n Bill? Or maybe Bob...) I'd like to come up with something for Matt and his insane gaming character, but nothing comes to mind.

Can't help wondering about Debbie as General Jinjur. At least she gets to wear the sword again.

You're right about Travis; hadn't really thought about there being so few heroic male characters in the series. Best I can come up with is the Soldier with Green Whiskers (aka the Royal Army of Oz) -- way too ineffectual. (The Hungry Tiger came to mind, but about the only thing he does on his own is dream about eating babies; Travis isn't comfortable holding Stella, but...)

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Re: Tuck Characters in Oz [message #1982] Wed, 16 June 2004 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eric wrote on Tue, 15 June 2004 17:50

As I recall, in one of the later books Ozma has to intervene to prevent Dorothy from growing to her real age (at least while she's in Oz) after some contact with the outside world.

I don't recall that, but with a handfull of exceptions I've only read the Baum books. I really should try and track them down.
Eric wrote on Tue, 15 June 2004 17:50

That would seem to set up Eugene as Tip -- not a bad thought.

Well, I think I made my thoughts on the subject clear. Eugene as Tip really does seem to fit unusually well, even beyond the obvious.
Eric wrote on Tue, 15 June 2004 17:50

Can't help wondering about Debbie as General Jinjur. At least she gets to wear the sword again.

I think that fits better than the Wicked Witch, actually- promote Lisa to the big job. If Tuck has anything to do with the cast selections, the WW job sticks, however.
Eric wrote on Tue, 15 June 2004 17:50

(The Hungry Tiger came to mind, but about the only thing he does on his own is dream about eating babies; Travis isn't comfortable holding Stella, but...)

That's probably as good a suggestion as any- goodness knows Travis somtimes seems to think with his stomach. Or perhaps we should give Mike the Hungry Tiger role, given that requirement. That would free up the Tin Woodsman position for Travis on my list. Not that he needs a heart, but that's as close to the "Knight in shining armor" as any of the cast comes. (Not just in appearance, but in temperment, IMO.)
Re: Tuck Characters in Oz [message #1983] Wed, 16 June 2004 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My Casting suggestions:

Mike - Scarecrow
Travis - Tin Woodman
George - Cowardly Lion

Tuck can do both Dorothy and Tip/Ozma, got to be the heroine part. So Tuck is the Patchwork Girl, too.

Dobson - The Wizard and The Gump

Mom - Mombi Smile

The Therapist is Glinda

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Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1986] Wed, 16 June 2004 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tuck as Urfin Juice... now can you tell me what version of Oz he's from?


I touch the fire and it freezes me
I look into it and it's black

"They say the atmosphere there was so full of goodness
that evil just shriviled up and died. Maybe that's why I
never went there."
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1987] Wed, 16 June 2004 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gon T. Rex wrote on Wed, 16 June 2004 16:12

Tuck as Urfin Juice... now can you tell me what version of Oz he's from?

Presumably he's from the series of Russian Oz books by Aleksandr Volkov. Which I first heard of yesterday when this thread inspired me to search the internet and see if any of the post-Baum books were public domain and available online. (The answer is yes, 9 are PD and at least 8 are available.) My question is, since I've never seen those books, is there some reason Tuck is suitable to that role? (Assuming I've ID'd the source correctly, that is.)
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #1996] Fri, 18 June 2004 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And we have a winner!

Urfin's a grump and loner who tries to take over (and succeeds for a time) Oz several times. First with an army of magically animated wooden soldiers, then by posing as a god for some unknown tribe and having them as his army.
Not very Tuck-like though I think Tuck would appreciate the irony of chosing a villain persona for halloween.


I touch the fire and it freezes me
I look into it and it's black

"They say the atmosphere there was so full of goodness
that evil just shriviled up and died. Maybe that's why I
never went there."
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #2000] Sat, 19 June 2004 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am I missing something here?

Tuck time: approximately 16:00 hours EST[EDT?]/Oct. 8, 1997. Tuck is on a guerney in the emergency room. An emergency tension pneumothorax relief procedure has just been prefomed by Mike. Posssible neurologic damage has been incurred by Tuck as the result of a severe beating. Halloween is just over 3 weeks away.

Am I wrong in assuming that if Tuck is fortunate, the logical Halloween costumes more fall into the line of Frida, or the English Patient; devolving down to such posibilities as Christopher Reed?

Perspectives, folks!
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #2001] Sat, 19 June 2004 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey these threads are for fun. Though taking the hospital into account how about Bride of Frankenstien or the Mummy?
Re: Halloween Costumes for Tuck [message #2002] Sat, 19 June 2004 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cate wrote on Sat, 19 June 2004 10:46


Am I wrong in assuming that if Tuck is fortunate, the logical Halloween costumes more fall into the line of Frida, or the English Patient; devolving down to such posibilities as Christopher Reed?


First of all, don't you mean Christopher Reeve?

And second, yes, we do realize that Halloween will probably not very fun for Tuck this year, being (probably) confined to a hospital bed and all. But this speculation/discussion began way before that, and it's still fun to wonder what if -- maybe the ideas can be used for episode #200...

It's like those "casting games" common in other fan groups, like "who would you cast for Rincewind and Twoflower?", only kind of backwards.

I'm still partial to my idea of the gang dressing as Gen13 characters for Halloween, by the way... Tu/Val as Freefall, Kathy as Caitlyn Fairchild, Mike as Grunge, Debbie as Rainmaker (with makeup to darken that Irish skin of hers, of course)... hmmm, who would work for Burnout? Well, maybe Dan or George -- I don't know much about how they look. Oh, and Bill Tucker as Lynch... what about Lisa as Ivana Baiul? People seem to like seeing Lisa as kind-of a villain anyway.


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Re: Tuck Characters in Oz [message #2007] Wed, 23 June 2004 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 15 June 2004 21:04

Eric wrote on Tue, 15 June 2004 17:50

As I recall, in one of the later books Ozma has to intervene to prevent Dorothy from growing to her real age (at least while she's in Oz) after some contact with the outside world.

I don't recall that, but with a handfull of exceptions I've only read the Baum books. I really should try and track them down.



I think that it was a Thompson book, about halfway through the series (as it existed in the late 1950's). I wish someone would reissue those; I remember thinking -- in retrospect, of course; I wasn't picky back then -- that they were better than Baum's, plotwise, and I'd like to see if I'm right.

Eric
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Eric wrote on Wed, 23 June 2004 06:32


I think that it was a Thompson book, about halfway through the series (as it existed in the late 1950's). I wish someone would reissue those; I remember thinking -- in retrospect, of course; I wasn't picky back then -- that they were better than Baum's, plotwise, and I'd like to see if I'm right.


The following website has most of the Public Domain Oz books available, including six of the seven by Thompson that are public domain:
http://www.emeraldcityofoz.com/library/
And this one has information on the entire Famous Fourty "canonical" Oz books, with better formatted texts of several:
http://www.welcometooz.net/
I've only read a few of the Thompsons, so I can't really comment on the plots being generally better or not. I do know that, unlike Baum, she realized Ozma's birthday, in and of itself, was not sufficent to drive the entire plot. (Road to Oz is my least favorite of the Baum Oz books; and while I like Magic of Oz quite a bit, it doesn't really have what I would call a plot. It's more of an excuse for some scenes.) Then again, some of Baum's books are extremely well-plotted.

I realize this has drifted rather far off topic. So, to get back to Tuck, I might as well step back and agree that Tuck would probably relish playing the role of villain for halloween.
Re: Tuck Characters in Oz [message #2026] Wed, 07 July 2004 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just an amusing little fact I found online recently that seems to fit into the Tuck in Oz thread:

L. Frank Baum wrote several other series besides the Oz books, most of them using a pseudonym. His most prolific other identity was one "Edith Van Dyne". And "her" most sucessful series of books was "Aunt Jane's Nieces."

Well, I got a kick out of it, at least.
Re: Tuck Characters in Oz [message #3291] Tue, 15 March 2005 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OtherEric wrote on Wed, 07 July 2004 20:48

Just an amusing little fact I found online recently that seems to fit into the Tuck in Oz thread:

L. Frank Baum wrote several other series besides the Oz books, most of them using a pseudonym. His most prolific other identity was one "Edith Van Dyne". And "her" most sucessful series of books was "Aunt Jane's Nieces."

Well, I got a kick out of it, at least.

Came up with a remaindered copy of a Baum biography a few weeks back (L. Frank Baum, Creator of Oz, by Katharine M. Rogers) which has a synopsis of the first Aunt Jane's Nieces book.

Turns out Jane Merrick apparently has at least a few things in common with Jane Thompson: she lives in a mansion, bosses around everyone she meets, and makes life painfully difficult for three teenagers who'll be staying at her place for some time whether they want to or not.

Two of them do want to -- one's escaping constant fighting between her parents, and the other's been living with her mother in the manner to which they're accustomed, but the insurance money just ran out.

The third -- the admirable one, who doesn't want to be there -- is 16, works as a hairdresser and has a talent for math(!). Furthermore, she's bright enough to find a way to stand up against her overbearing Aunt Jane, yet she's able to find some sympathy for her, unlike everyone else, that eventually wins Jane's respect.

(Jane, apparently, isn't part of the series after that story, despite her remaining in the title. Though Rogers isn't explicit, she may have died: the reward for which the three girls were competing was to be named in Jane's will. The conflict is resolved in Baum's not-unfamiliar deus ex machina fashion by bringing in Jane's older brother, the even wealthier long-lost Uncle John, to support the whole family and take the nieces on adventures all over the world -- or at least to whatever exotic sites the now-successful Baum and his family went on vacation.)

Baum, BTW, after his first publisher, Hill Publishing, went broke, had gone to the larger Bobbs-Merrill, but was dissatisfied with their promotion of his books. Hill's successor, Reilly & Britton, won him back with a promise that he'd be the only children's book author they'd promote. It turned out to be true, since besides the Oz books he wound up writing all the company's other books for children and teenagers under about six pen names. Edith Van Dyne, according to the contract he and the company signed in 1905, would write books in "the style of the Louisa M. Alcott stories, but not so good." However, the series, Rogers says, sold as well as the Oz books at the time, albeit at a cost of 60 each, compared to the $1.25 that the more elaborately produced and illustrated Oz books brought at retail.

Eric
Re: Tuck Characters in Oz [message #3292] Tue, 15 March 2005 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I haven't tried to read it yet, but:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/10123

will point those interested at the first of Baum's "Aunt Jane" books. If somebody does get the time to read it (and that includes me), let us know how well it fits or doesn't fit.

Oh, and in response to your comment back in June, all of Thompson's OZ books are in print. Most of them from Del Rey, you can find them on Amazon. The others are available at:

http://www.booksofwonder.net/home.jsp

For the nickle it's worth, the scene with Dorothy aging when she goes back to the ouside world is in Lost King of OZ.

[Updated on: Tue, 15 March 2005 23:24]

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Thanks. I'll take a look when I have a chance.

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Well, I read it tonight. Very little similarity, it turns out, once you get past a woman named Jane living in a country estate with servants, niece-type-houseguests and horses -- and of course servants and horses come with the territory in 1905. (And this Jane dies during the story.)

Eric
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KellyDahl wrote on Fri, 02 January 2004 11:03

Ok I have to ask this, who would be Ozma, The Clockwork Soldier, and The Patchwork Girl just to name a few other characters. Also keep in mind acording to the authors works not the hollywood story Dorothy is around 8 instead of 16, but that dosen't make this any less fun. Wink


While I can't see Tuck being at all comfortable with it, it's way too easy to argue that Tuck *is* "the patchwork girl". Somatoform mosaicism and all that...
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Cate wrote on Sat, 19 June 2004 06:46

Am I missing something here?

Tuck time: approximately 16:00 hours EST[EDT?]/Oct. 8, 1997. Tuck is on a guerney in the emergency room. An emergency tension pneumothorax relief procedure has just been prefomed by Mike. Posssible neurologic damage has been incurred by Tuck as the result of a severe beating. Halloween is just over 3 weeks away.


Minor Nit. Tuck lives in the Central time zone. Thhere are specific mentions of Amy's mother forgetting the one hour time difference between where Tuck lives and New York.

And if wherever Tuck lives does daylight savings time, it would be CDT, not CST as daylight time in the US (for quite a bit farther back than 1997) ends on the last Sunday in October. (see http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html )

Cate wrote on Sat, 19 June 2004 06:46

Am I wrong in assuming that if Tuck is fortunate, the logical Halloween costumes more fall into the line of Frida, or the English Patient; devolving down to such posibilities as Christopher Reed?



He could go as a mermaid. I'm sure he could dig up a wheelchair. Smile

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Minor Nit. Tuck lives in the Central time zone.



Why do you think this? References in Tuck: i.e. restaurants Boca & Teller's, Underground nightclub, amusement park Kings Island, Deighton (Dayton?) University, lead me to the conclusion that the setting is Cincinnati, Ohio. Cincinnati is EST5EDT last time I checked.

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Alternative theory time here:

The day when Aunt Trish forgot about the one-hour time difference was April 28 -- that is, during DST.

However, large parts of Indiana, well within the range of King's Island, ARE in Eastern Time but DO NOT follow DST. Ergo, in winter they are in the same time zone as New York... but in the summer, there is the one-hour difference. That would have the extra benefit of explaining how Trish could "keep forgetting" the difference -- if it were a permanent thing, she would probably learn it eventually.

Also, I have just checked the entries for the night from 5-->6 April. That was the first Sunday in April in 1997, that is, if Tuck lived in a DST-observing zone, that would be when it would come into effect. That was the night of Tuck's delayed-birthday party, by the way -- which meant he went to bed quite late. And surprisingly, he didn't complain once about "losing an hour of sleep" next day when Kim called him up at her usual 9 o'clock next morning. Actually, there were no mentions of DST that I could find. Negative evidence, yes, but still some kind of evidence towards my theory...

Hmmm, there was a discussion about the location a while ago in one of the other forums. I should copy this thing there...

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Just checked. The discussion has been ongoing (well, quiet for a while now, since December) in the "Where Are We" thread over in the "Tuckerspawn" subforum. The whole time zone thing has been raised there in the past, with a lot of discussion.


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Quote:

The discussion has been ongoing (well, quiet for a while now, since December) in the "Where Are We" thread...



Thanks! Hadn't noticed that thread.

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Eric: Is the book worth reading, even if any similarity to other stories is purely superficial?

Brooke: Nasty but sadly accurate assessment of Tuck.
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 00:05

Brooke: Nasty but sadly accurate assessment of Tuck.


Which, my comparing him to the Patchwork Girl?

In any case, after watching some first season B5 and thinking on some of the ways Tuck has been depicted in the art on Ellen's site, I have to wonder if Tuck could pull off Ivanova?

Given his talents, the accent would be no problem. The uniform might be a bit trickier. And it'd give Mike an excuse to wear that B5 tunic. Smile
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OtherEric wrote on Tue, 19 April 2005 00:05

Eric: Is the book worth reading, even if any similarity to other stories is purely superficial?


I'm glad I read it, if only to satisfy my curiosity. As novels go, it's a quick read (only about 300K), and it hangs together as a story well enough. Characters aren't deep, but they're not cardboard, for the most part; nearly all have strengths and weaknesses, and there's no lack of motivation for what they do. As Rogers observed, without the ability to resort to Oz magic, Baum has to settle for a couple of implausible story events to make things come out right, but I didn't find it painful.

From the standpoint of writing skill, I was surprised to find the author explaining how the nieces felt a few times where it wouldn't have been difficult to expose their feelings through dialogue or at least internal reflection; I wondered whether that was a concession to the young teen age group for which the story was intended. But I definitely didn't see anything in the story itself to suggest that the reader wasn't being respected or treated as an equal.

One unfortunate (previous) extreme spoiler: if you read it, try to forget what I said about what Rogers said about Uncle John. If it helps any, I can say that there was a misunderstanding there.

And one tease: We seem to have a 1905 story here with an autistic character. If you read it, see if you agree.

FWIW, there are a few (more) things I'd like to discuss with others who read it, if anyone wants to. I'll start a thread in "Other FanFics", for lack of a better place.

Actually, a TG version of the story wouldn't be that hard to do, given the way the heroine, Patsy, is brought into the story -- even that nickname was applied as often to Patrick as to Patricia at that point in time, as I understand it. Bending the other two nieces (especially Louise) would take more work, given their motivation and character. But Aunt Jane hasn't, in fact, ever met any of the three when she invites them in at the start of the story.

Eric

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